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...Israel snubs UN...

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Offline johnli

on: August 01, 2014, 05:49:50 PM
marami na ang namatay, nasugatan at naapektuhan ng labanan na nangyayari sa Gaza... nakakalungkot isipin na karamihan sa mga ito ay mga sibilyan at mga bata,.. pero hindi ko maiwasang magtanong minsan, kung bakit ang mga sibilyan ay hindi lumilikas o nililikas sa mas ligtas na lugar,.. sinasabi ng Israel na nagbibigay naman sila ng "warning" kung magbombo sila,..

sa inyo anu kaya ang rason ng di nila paglikas,.. yun ba ang kanilang kagustuhan o tlagang ginagawa silang "human shield" ng Hamas, o talagang wala silang ibang mapuntahan kaya wala na silang magawa,..

para naman sa akin eh, kung gusto tlaga sila tulungan ng kanilang gobyerno dapat nilikas na sila sa mas ligtas na lugar,. parang ginagawa na sila na "human shield" at kung mamatay man sila maraming makikipag simpatiya sa Hamas, ito ay isang politikal propaganda lang,..

sa inyo anu sa palagay nyo?



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...Israel snubs UN...
« on: August 01, 2014, 05:49:50 PM »

Offline Lord Nok Von Hauten

Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 07:03:19 PM
Ito lang kanya kanyang opinyon kaya wag po sana magalit kung meron tatamaan.

Sa totoo lang naman kung meron ginawa ang gobyerno ng palestino laban sa mga hamas ay baka sakaling walang gera sa kanila. Ang problema ang gobyerno ng palestino ay naka sandal din sa hamas, dating hawak ng hamas ang gobyerno nila na hanggang ngaun ay meron pa rin nakaupo. Kahit aino naman bansa na pinaliliparan ng rocket di ka ba gagawa ng action?

Yun nga lang nagkataon na ayaw umalis ng mga tao sa lugar nila. Ang kawawa dito ang mga bata na ewalang kamuang muang sa mundo. Ang hirap isipin na kumg bakit napayag ang mga ama at ina na hindi umalis sa lugar nila.

Sa huli ang talo dito ay ung mga taong walang kamuang muang sa mundo.
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Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Ang Hamas ay isang organisasyong marahas at sakim sa kapangyarihan. Kailaman ay hindi nila kinikilala ang estado ng Israel. Ngunit hindi sila ang tunay na nagrerepresentate sa mga Palestino. Ito ay ang PLO kung saan miyembro ang kanilang kalabang grupo, ang Fatah. Kung matatandaan, ang lugar kung saan nagkakaroon ng labanan ngayon ay dating kontrolado ng Fatah subalit ito ay sapilitang inagaw sa pamamagitan ng dahas ng Hamas. Ang Fatah sa kasalukuyan ay kinikilala ang estado ng Israel at may peace treaty ang dalawang bansang ito.

Nakakalungkot isipin na ang mga mamamayan sa lugar na kontrolado ng Hamas ay nakakaawa ang kalagayan. Wala silang matakbuhan dahil sa umiiral blockade sa kanila ng bansang Ehipto at ng Israel. Kahit ang mga UN refugee center ay inaatake ng Israel dahil sa sabi nila maging dito ay nagsisimula ang mga rocket attack at ginagawa din itong imbakan ng Hamas ng mga baril at bala na ginagamit sa kanila..

Kung ang Hamas sana ay katulad ng Fatah, palagay ko magkakaroon ng katahimikan ang mga Palestino. Hindi kailanman susuko ang Israel sa kanila.   

Kilalanin nila ang Israel at ng sa ganun  mahinto na ang walang kabuluhang gyerang ito..
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Offline johnli

Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 04:25:20 PM
salamat sa impormasyon at opinyon,... nakakaawa kasi ang mga taong naiipit doon,.. walang choice,.. kahit UN wala na atang magawa kundi mag press release ng pag condemn sa pag atake ng Israel sa Gaza,. peru kung hahayaan naman ng Israel na manatili ang Hamas sa pag atake sa kanila Israel din ang mananagot sa mga tao nila..


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Reply #4 on: August 03, 2014, 01:15:56 AM
I'm giving you guys a pat on the back for caring to post and respond on this MidEast conflict even though it doesn't directly affect our country. Only goes to show that there are PT members who still follow the compelling issues happening on the global community.


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Reply #5 on: August 03, 2014, 06:21:51 AM
I agree with Caligula.

Anyway for me, pareho namang may kasalanan. Malaki din ang pagkukulang ng Israel sa totoo lang. It's popular to see Israel as the good guy, specially sa sama ng nanyari sa mga Jews nung world war 2, pero sa dami ng war crimes at atrocities na ginagawa ngayon ng Israel, hindi ko na alam ano ba dapat isipin sa kanila.

They have the money, the power and the tech and the strength. Even the US napapasunod nila sa tindi ng lobbyist nila sa congress. Popular media tends to see Israel in the best light not only because of ties between the Christian and Jewish religion, pero sa dami ng Jews in Hollywood, it's almost a career suicide to speak out against them. Mel Gibson ring any bells after the passion of the Christ? If you say bad things about them, people tends to equate you with being an anti-Semite and those evil Nazis.

Ang kawawa dito is yung mga Palestino, what would happen to them? How many of their children have to die before these conflicts would stop? Should the world just watch and not do anything while a genocide is happening in our midst?

I know not all Israelis agree with what their government and their military is doing, there are decent human beings on both sides, pero in my opinion the Palestinians get the shorter end of the stick here. There is no excuse for Hamas launching rockets into Israel, they must be brought to justice dahil mali talaga yoon, pero ang iniisip ko yung mga innocente. Hindi lang Hamas ang gumagamit ng human shields, just the other day I saw a picture of a Palestinian boy tied onto the windshield of an Israeli military vehicle, used as a shield. Could you imagine seeng that? Another info that Israel dropped some flyers into Palestinian territory, telling citizens to hide in the shelters, only 30 minutes later they specifically bombed and targeted a shelter. Damn, if that isn't a war crime I don't know what that is.

Both are guilty of terrible crimes against humanity, pero there is no denying Israel is the big dog in this game.

Israel is very powerful, langgam lang ang Hamas for them. Sa military budget at sa billion billion every year na aid ng US para sa Israel, they are more than ready for this stuff. This kind of stuff is what they have been training for ever since maitatag ang Jewish state. Their PR and propaganda machines have been working overtime, and looks like it's still able to cover up most of the stink.

Don't get me wrong, Israel has the right to defend herself, she was a victim of evil and ignorant people throughout history and it's only right they have their own nation, pero genocide is never right. The nazis did it to them, does that give them the right to do the same thing to someone else? They of all people should know that kind of heartache.
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Reply #6 on: August 03, 2014, 10:18:24 AM
Katulad nga ng sinabi ko di matatapos ang kaguluhang yan kung di kikilalanin ng Hamas ang right to exist ng Israel. Kung ang Israel ay pinaghahandaan at naglalaan ng bilyong pera sa military, ito ay nararapat lamang dahil obligasyon ng kahit aling bansa ang proteksyunan ang mamamayan nito laban sa karahasan at kahit Pilipinas ay ganito din naman ang ginagawa.

Alam din naman ng Hamas na wala silang panama pagdating sa Gyera kaya nga ginagamit nila ang mamamayan nila bilang human shield para makakuha ng simpatiya, isa rin itong uri ng istratehiya ng Hamas laban sa Israel. Saan ka nakakita na sa mga UN School tinatago ang mga armas? At ang mga rocket launching site ng Hamas ay karamihan din ay nasa matataong lugar.

Sinasadya na nga siguro ng ISrael ang maramihang casualty dahil ang gustong mangyari ng ISrael ay wag suportahan ng mga Palestino ang Hamas at marealize nila na ginagamit lang sila ng Hamas para sa pansariling interes nito.

Dahil kung kapayapaan lang ang gusto nila, gawin nilang halimbawa ang ginawa ng Fatah.




 
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Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
This is what I'm gonna tell you. I have some guilt feeling since I'm working for an EMS that produce circuit boards for Aerospace and Defense, a half a trillion $ industry. The corporate world is clicking their champagne glasses this year as they projected a 5% increase in revenue.

Here's the crazy part. 2 weeks ago, USA sold $11billion worth of Patriot missiles, helicopters, anti-tanks to Qatar.  Somewhere in Doha, Qatar's capital, Khaled Mashaal and his leadership is already doing his inventory of weapons. Khaled is the leader of Hamas and Qatar openly supports and funds the Muslim Brotherhood aka Hamas.

Bibi Netanyahu, on the other hand continues to get $10 million of military aid A DAY from US.

​And we're not even touching Russia, China, the EU and Canada​'s supply chain operation in the grand scheme of weapon sale in this volatile region.

What am I saying here. I'm saying the world needs this war. War ensures shareholders are happy with their investments and lobbyists get to keep their jobs. Fuc-k if children die and infrastructures are ruined. War curbs the uncontrollable population growth and economies are rebuilt.

It's a shitty world we live in but the reality is we are all dispensable. Welcome to the macroeconomics of the Purge.


Offline johnli

Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
@caligula well, sad, but true,.. malaki ang business pag may giyera,.. sa ating bansa nga lang eh may mga impormasyon na lumalabas na kinokontrol ng mga warlord ang labanan sa Mindanao para kumita sila,.. anu pa kaya sa buong mundo,.. mas malawak ang saklaw mas malaki ang kita,.


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