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The missing flight (MH370)

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Offline EreimondB

Reply #30 on: March 12, 2014, 09:36:09 AM
Missing Malaysia jet draws comparisons to AF447 case

PARIS, France – The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which was yet to be located 3 days after it dropped off the radar, has drawn comparisons with the 2009 crash of Air France flight AF447.

Here are main the similarities and differences:

Similarities

Still missing 3 days into the search. The Air France plane was located nearly 2 years after its disappearance. Only a few pieces of the tail were retrieved a week after the crash.

Cruising. Airliner was above sea and at cruising altitude.
Number of passengers. MH370 had 239 and AF447 had 228, including 12 crew in both cases.

Safety. Both the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777-200 and Air France Airbus A330 have outstanding safety records.

No mayday call. Aviation experts say that is not surprising, arguing that in the event of a sudden technical problem the crew's priority is to find a solution.

Repairs. Both jets suffered minor damage on the ground and underwent repairs. In the case of flight AF447, it was established there was no correlation with the crash.


Differences

ACARS. The Airbus had sent 24 automatic messages listing technical "events" in four minutes through the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS). The Malaysian jet was equipped with ACARS but the airline has not yet said whether any messages had been received.

Cruise phase. Both planes were cruising when they disappeared but in the case of flight MH370, the cruise phase had just begun, meaning the captain was likely in command of the flight deck. On the Airbus, the captain was resting and only returned to the cockpit moments before the jet went down.

Weather. Conditions appeared good on the Malaysian aircraft's path while the Air France flight encountered major turbulence.

Radar. Flight MH370 went missing in a busy area for air traffic, likely to be well monitored as it is close to several countries. The Rio-Paris flight went down over the Atlantic, outside of radar coverage.

Recovery. The Air France jet crashed further away from the coast and into very deep waters, a complicating factor for the investigation.

Relevant authorities. The AF447 crashed in international waters, allowing for French investigators to take the lead. Since the MH370 has yet to be located, it is unclear whether the Malaysians, the Vietnamese or other authorities should be in charge.

From Rappler.com

Pinanood ko nga yung documentary na naka post sa youtube about Air France 447. Sayang din yun kasi may pagkakataon pa pala sana silang maisagip yung eroplano bago dumausdos pababa ng Atlantic Ocean.

Sana talaga mahanap na yung debris, if ever nga na nagcrash ito. At kahit papaano mahanap na yung mga katawan. Tsk tsk tsk.

Nakakakilabot din yung balitang natatawagan pa nila yung mga cellphones ng mga kaanak nilang sakay ng MH370.

Include pa rin natin sa prayers ang nakakalungkot na pangyayaring ito.
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Re: The missing flight (MH370)
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Reply #31 on: March 12, 2014, 12:03:21 PM
well baka inangkin din ng china ang malaysian airline kaya nawawala lol..

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Reply #32 on: March 13, 2014, 12:14:54 AM
ilang days na ang nakalipas
wala pa ring sign
ng plane


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Reply #33 on: March 13, 2014, 11:59:44 AM
"New Bermuda Triangle detected in Vietnam waters, well-equipped sophisticated devices are of no use!"

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Reply #34 on: March 13, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
Sana nga at least buhay pa sila .. yun nga lang ano ang meron doon is its up to them to survive ..

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Reply #35 on: March 14, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Parang hindi ko mapaniwalaan ang explanation na to. I work for a large telecom company. And i as far as i know, it doesnt work katulad ng sinabi nung analyst.

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Mystery of Flight MH370 Phone Calls
Explained
BY JEAN ALBA – MARCH 13, 2014
POSTED IN: TECHNOLOGY , WORLD, WORLD
NEWS
The strange phone connection to the mobile
phones of the passengers of Malaysia Airlines
flight MH370 had created hope for their relatives
who remain hungry for information since the
flight’s disappearance on Saturday, March 8.
Their phone call attempts were greeted with
ringtones instead of immediately going to voice
mail, fueling speculation that the plane remains to
be intact.
One Facebook user commented, “Frustrated! …
There are reports from family members that
phone calls to their missing loved ones have
‘rung through,’ indicating the phones aren’t on
the bottom of the ocean.”
However, technology industry analyst and “E-
Commerce Times” columnist, Jeff Kagan, told
CNN in an interview that the ring tone does not
establish anything and points out that it is one of
the “sad parts of technology.”
“When you place a phone call on a wireless
phone, what happens is you start hearing ringing
but the other phone isn’t ringing yet. The network
has to find the phone and they have to send the
call there. If it doesn’t find the phone after a few
minutes or after a few rings, then typically, it
disconnects and that’s what’s happening,” Kagan
explained.
He continued, “So, they’re hearing ringing and
they’re assuming it’s connecting to their loved
ones, but it’s not. It’s the network sending a
signal to the phone letting them know it’s looking
for them.”
Kagan also pointed out that most smartphone
batteries don’t last for a day.
He ended the interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer
saying, “Just because you’re getting ringing, just
because the signs that we see on these cell
phones, that’s no proof that there’s any — that’s
just the way the networks work.”

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Reply #36 on: March 14, 2014, 02:47:02 PM
What happened to Malaysia Airlines flight MH370?

BANGKOK, Thailand – Nearly 5 days since it disappeared while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, there is still no trace of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

Conflicting information, false alarms over debris and confusion over the focus of the search have produced more questions than answers.

Here we take a look at the possible scenarios being weighed up by industry experts as the world waits for clues as to the fate of the Boeing 777, which has one of the best safety records of any jet.


THEORY 1: Explosion on board

WHY: According to Malaysian authorities the plane was cruising at 35,000 feet (11 kilometers) above sea level when it last made contact and vanished without making a distress call, pointing to the possibility of a sudden catastrophic event.

The presence on board of two suspect passengers travelling on stolen passports fuelled fears of a terrorist attack.

It was revealed Tuesday they were probably just Iranian migrants, but CIA Director John Brennan said a terror link had not been ruled out.

Other possibilities include a strike by a missile or military aircraft.

EXPERT VIEW: "I don't believe it has anything to do with the serviceability or the design of the aircraft," Neil Hansford, chairman of leading Australian airline consultancy Strategic Aviation Solutions, told Agence France-Presse.

"The way I see it there are three scenarios. There was a bomb on board... the aircraft was hit by a military aircraft or a rogue missile; or...the captain is locked out of the cockpit and the plane is put in a dive," he said.


THEORY 2: Technical difficulties

WHY: The sudden disappearance could also point to a technical problem that could have led to a rapid descent. Reports from the Malaysian authorities that the jet may have made a sharp turn west before it lost contact, possibly pointing to the pilots struggling to rectify a problem, have bolstered this theory.

EXPERT VIEW: "To me that (the veer) suggests there was a stall," says former Inspector General of the US Department of Transportation and aviation lawyer, Mary Schiavo.

"That doesn't mean you lose your engines. It means that you're losing your air flow over your wings, sufficient speed to keep the plane in the air...it would lose altitude really dramatically."

She compared the possible scenario to the fate of Air France 447 – which crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 after its speed sensors malfunctioned – in an interview with Australia's ABC television.

If the plane did crash, a combination of technical difficulties and pilot error would be a likely scenario, Frost & Sullivan Asia Pacific aerospace consultant Ravi Madavaram said.

"There is no single factor which generally leads to an airplane crash, but a combination of technical glitches and pilot decisions. Each of these glitches and decisions taken independently are harmless and often happens. It is the combination of these factors that lead to a catastrophe."


THEORY 3: Structural disintegration

WHY: The lack of wreckage or black box transmission has led to speculation that the plane may have disintegrated mid-air.

EXPERT VIEW: While structural disintegration has been behind some previous aircraft disappearances, new planes use "better materials, technology and maintenance schedules", Madavaram says.

"This last happened to China Airlines flight 611, during its cruise at 35,000 feet in 2002. Flight 611 was a Boeing 747 aircraft and the reason for that crash was faulty repair."

He added that the technology on a Boeing 747 was 20 years older than on a 777.


THEORY 4: Hijacking

WHY: The absence of debris around the intended flight path, the possibility that the flight turned back, and conflicting reports over whether the plane was spotted by Malaysian military way off course have added to speculation of a hijack, which has still not been ruled out by investigators.

Malaysia Airlines says that all its aircraft are equipped with the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) system – which puts out information about location and airspeed – but has so far declined to release whatever data it got from flight MH370.

EXPERT VIEW: The reports of a "turn back" raised yet more questions, says Scott Hamilton, managing director of US-based aviation consultancy Leeham Co.

"If it were near the Vietnam coast, why turn back when there probably would have been a closer airport in the event of an emergency?" he wrote on his company website.

The larger question was whether the turn was intentional "under the command of the pilots (or hijackers)," or due to other causes such as engine problems or an explosion.

But Frost & Sullivan's Madavaram believes several factors rule out a hijack, including a lack of a credible claim of responsibility and the difficulty in evading radars and witnesses.


THEORY 5: Pilot suicide

WHY: While rare, there have been cases in the past of pilots crashing planes to take their own lives. According to the US Federal Aviation Administration, pilot suicides account for less than 0.5 percent of all fatal general aviation accidents.

EXPERT VIEW: A suicide bid "is possible and if that's the case there might not be a lot of debris because the plane would have come down in relatively structural integrity," said Terence Fan, aviation expert at Singapore Management University.

"The airplane is not meant to float and if the airplane sinks in the water, water will go inside because the door seals are not meant to seal water."

From Rappler.com


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Reply #37 on: March 17, 2014, 08:13:47 PM
one week na ang nakalipas
wala pa ring sign ng plane


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Reply #38 on: March 17, 2014, 09:12:56 PM
Police search homes of MH370 pilots

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – Malaysia said Sunday, March 16, that police had searched the homes of the pilots of a missing jet and examined a home flight simulator after revelations that the flight was deliberately diverted triggered a full-scale criminal probe.

As a multi-nation operation began a new push to locate the vanished Boeing-777 somewhere within a vast arc of land and ocean, criminal investigators sought other clues to the fate of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

The transport ministry said police searched the pilots' homes on Saturday, March 15, and were examining the captain's home flight simulator but cautioned the public "not to jump to conclusions."

In line with "normal procedure," police were probing all the missing plane's 239 passengers and crew, as well as engineers who may have had contact with the aircraft before take-off, the ministry said in a statement.

The police action followed Saturday's startling revelations that the plane's communications systems had been manually switched off before the jet veered westward and flew on for hours.

Briefing the press, Prime Minister Najib Razak declined to use the word hijack but said the new data suggested "deliberate action" by someone on board – raising more perplexing and deeply troubling questions about the plane's fate.

"Who? Why? Where?" was the front page headline of the Malaysian government-controlled New Straits Times.

For anguished relatives, the news was a double-edged sword – holding out the slim hope that hijackers had landed the plane somewhere while ushering in another agonizing open-ended waiting period.

Relatives of Bob and Cathy Lawton, a missing Australian couple, said they were horrified by the notion of a drawn-out hijack ordeal.


What did they put up with?

"That's one of the worst things I could have hoped for," Bob's brother David Lawton told News Limited newspapers.

"Even if they are alive, what did they have to put up with?"

The scope for speculation is as broad as the new search area that stretches from Kazakhstan to the southern Indian Ocean.

India on Sunday suspended its search around the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and in the Bay of Bengal pending fresh instructions from Malaysia.

Expert opinion that disabling the communications system required specialist knowledge intensified scrutiny of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah and his First Officer, Fariq Abdul Hamid.

Friends and colleagues of both pilots have testified to their good character, but questions have been raised over the simulator Zaharie installed at home – even though aviation commentators have said this is not uncommon.

Fariq's record was queried after a woman said he had allowed her and a friend to ride in the cockpit of an earlier flight.

The alternative scenario – that the cockpit was taken over or the pilots coerced – opens a Pandora's Box of possibilities as to who might be involved and with what motive.

Two passengers who boarded the plane with stolen EU passports have been identified as Iranians by Interpol, who said they were most likely illegal immigrants who did not fit terrorist profiles.

The fact that most of the passengers on board the Beijing-bound flight were Chinese has raised speculation of involvement by militants from China's Muslim ethnic Uighur minority.


Still early days

Security experts warned against reading too much into partial data.

"We still really don't have a lot of evidence to go on," said Anthony Brickhouse, a member of the International Society of Air Safety Investigators.

"We don't have any wreckage. We don't have the plane itself. We don't have a lot of electronic data from the aircraft."

The search is now focused on two flight corridors – a northern one stretching from Thailand to Kazakhstan and a southern zone from Indonesia towards the southern Indian Ocean.

The last satellite communication from the plane on March 8 came nearly 8 hours after it took off – around the time the airline has said it would have run out of fuel.

Sunday's transport ministry statement stressed that both corridors were being treated "with equal importance," but a number of analysts said the southern route encompassing a large swathe of ocean was more likely.

Flying along the northern corridor would have required the plane to travel undetected through numerous national airspaces in a strategically sensitive region.

"I just can't think of a scenario where this aircraft is sitting on a runway somewhere," said Brickhouse.

Scott Hamilton, managing director of US-based aerospace consultancy Leehman Co, said a crash in the ocean was the likeliest scenario and one that presented a daunting search and recovery challenge.

"Any floating debris will be widely dispersed and the main debris on the sea floor," he said.

China led fresh criticism of Malaysia's crisis management, saying it had "squandered" precious time and resources by releasing key information a full week after the plane vanished.

"Given today's technology, the delay smacks of either dereliction of duty or reluctance to share information in a full and timely manner," the state-run Xinhua news agency said in a scathing editorial.

"That would be intolerable," it said.

From Rappler.com


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Reply #39 on: March 17, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
"New Bermuda Triangle detected in Vietnam waters, well-equipped sophisticated devices are of no use!"

tweet ng isang malaysian politician

naalala ko lang tol troll... di ba pauwi ka ng Pinas? hayan tol mura lang ang ticket ng Malaysian Airlines.... ano? discounted pa!


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Reply #40 on: March 18, 2014, 06:02:56 AM


Some of the passengers pictures posted on tweeter ..

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Reply #41 on: March 18, 2014, 06:05:20 AM
 

Sana makita na sila ..

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Reply #42 on: March 18, 2014, 11:03:25 PM


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Reply #43 on: March 19, 2014, 08:03:32 AM


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Ay wow!! Ahahaha.. layo ng nilakbay! Amazing! XD

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