attempted homicide

kid_yolub · **on:** March 19, 2013, 01:22:49 PM

baka may magawing abogado dito or law student i have an urgent question...help please

My Board · « **on:** March 19, 2013, 01:22:49 PM »

aDiDas · **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:51:19 PM

i-post mo lang tol, wag ka lang gumamit ng real name para safe.

xxxchoholic Rai ♥ · **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:39:30 PM

bakit po kasi nu ba nangyari or what?

post mu un sitwasyon baka may maisuggest kami na something sayo

My Board · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:39:30 PM »

bohica · **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:17:09 AM

Getting an answer from this board is a waste of time unless you can prove that the answer comes from a person of law. All advises you get here needs to be vouched with a real-life lawyer. Hence, double the effort. Go out and talk to a lawyer, if you need legal advise.

The forum members, can however, point you to online sources or share their own experience but from my limited knowledge of law, each case is unique with its own unique sets of circumstances, motives, evidences and what have you.

caligula · **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:17:21 AM

It gives me chills just reading the subject. I second Bohica's comment. If you seriously and urgently need help, hwag ka dito magsayang ng oras, get a legal counsel asap. Kung hindi ka involve and just trying to help somebody, go to a pro bono lawyer or check pinoylawyer.org for basic legal advise.

I would surmise though na nobody died and the circumstances is not pre-meditated if you're using the correct terminology. Sounds like a fight happened and the one involved may have pulled something deadly like a knife or a gun pero the act was not consumated. Still a felony by itself but not as severe as criminal manslaughter o murder.

My Board · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:17:21 AM »

aDiDas · **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2013, 03:29:32 PM

tama kayo pero may mga taong ibat iba ang pakay para itanong ito. maybe he is just asking for second opinion, o kaya bago sya humarap sa tunay na abogado kelangan nay muna magka-idea. pero kung urgent yang case na yan ang isang tao hindi mag-aaksaya ng panahon para magtanong tanong tulad ng forum. o kaya nman wala syang pambayad sa abogado, oo nandyan ang PAO ngunit alam nman natin hindi lahat inaaccomodate dito.

dati kasi itong board na to may mga lawyers na sumasagot or mga law students at nakakapagbigay nman sila ng mga advices. hindi ko lang alam kung nandito na ulit sila.

charliehouse · **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2013, 07:16:14 PM

Please bear in mind that it is his choice na magtanong muna, wala naman sigurong masama sa pagtatanong. Second may mga members rin tayong mga abogado. Third there are instances na magiging subjective ang pagkaclasify ng tao sa word na urgent lalo na pag ikaw ang nasa sitwasyon at di ka makaka assess ng maayo who knows it might turn out na hindi talaga urgent ang sitwasyon and i'd be a waste of money kung mag aavail kaagad ng real legal service.

caligula · **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:47:26 AM

Well, it turns out hindi naman urgent. Nakita ko tong kid_yolub na to na nakatambay sa adult section at nagpapakasasa sa mundo ng kalibugan. If ever there's really a crime, this guy doesn't seem to care now.

Ultraman80 · **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:06:19 PM

Is there even a term "attempted homicide"? seryosong tanong ba yan? Baka attempted suicide, pwede pa.

Attempted - Pinagtangakaan

Homicide - napatay mo ng hindi sinasadya

Frustrated - napigilan na pagtatangka

Murder - Planado mo yung pagpatay

Attempted Homicide - pinagtangkaan mong patayin ng hindi sinasadya?

I would understand if it was plain "homicide" or "frustrated murder" - Homicide - ibig sabihin hindi mo sinasadya, at kung sinadya mo man, hindi nagtagumpay at ang labas is frustrated murder.

dimple · **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2013, 05:19:28 AM

Quote from: bohica on March 23, 2013, 10:17:09 AM

Getting an answer from this board is a waste of time unless you can prove that the answer comes from a person of law. All advises you get here needs to be vouched with a real-life lawyer. Hence, double the effort. Go out and talk to a lawyer, if you need legal advise.

The forum members, can however, point you to online sources or share their own experience but from my limited knowledge of law, each case is unique with its own unique sets of circumstances, motives, evidences and what have you.

with all the respect to your opinion sir... If all the members will reply like the way you did for sure its a waste of time.. but not all people can afford to pay a lawyer.. at marami na po natulungan ang board na to as long as we can see the sincerity and legitimate of the Queries.. plus the full details may mga members din po tayo na lawyers ang nag eefort na sumagot dito so napaka unfair naman ng comment nyo..

caligula · **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2013, 08:55:46 AM

With all due respect also, it may not be a complete waste of time but the comment is not exactly devoid of merit either. The gravity of the TS's issue was evident on his chosen subject and his urgent call for help. It's not your ordinary run of the mill legal subject like petty offenses but it incriminates a serious criminal issue requiring established procedure and unequivocal interpretation of law. Maybe that's the danger of having this kind of discussion board where the person dispensing advises may not really be in a position to give it unless you can corroborate your legal credentials. Similarly to any medical forum where you can ask for a remedy for a simple headache or sprain but if a question involves major ailments such as cancer or heart ailments, only an accredited physician has the binding prerogative to recommend treatment.

If we can make this legal queries board moderated by members who as Bohica noted "persons of law", then we can reduce the danger of having a free-for- all unreserved and unregulated legal advises which I assure is not only irresponsible but downright reckless if somebody will naively follow an uneducated advise.

dimple · **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:18:18 AM

Quote from: caligula on March 27, 2013, 08:55:46 AM

With all due respect also, it may not be a complete waste of time but the comment is not exactly devoid of merit either. The gravity of the TS's issue was evident on his chosen subject and his urgent call for help. It's not your ordinary run of the mill legal subject like petty offenses but it incriminates a serious criminal issue requiring established procedure and unequivocal interpretation of law. Maybe that's the danger of having this kind of discussion board where the person dispensing advises may not really be in a position to give it unless you can corroborate your legal credentials. Similarly to any medical forum where you can ask for a remedy for a simple headache or sprain but if a question involves major ailments such as cancer or heart ailments, only an accredited physician has the binding prerogative to recommend treatment.

If we can make this legal queries board moderated by members who as Bohica noted "persons of law", then we can reduce the danger of having a free-for- all unreserved and unregulated legal advises which I assure is not only irresponsible but downright reckless if somebody will naively follow an uneducated advise.

Sir I just wonder where did you get the idea that the one who is moderating this board is not a "persons of law"? PT came up with this board at the first place to help and give advices to our fellow members but then in the end still its up to the member what will be his/her next move... Admin aDiDas already explained

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tama kayo pero may mga taong ibat iba ang pakay para itanong ito. maybe he is just asking for second opinion, o kaya bago sya humarap sa tunay na abogado kelangan nay muna magka-idea. pero kung urgent yang case na yan ang isang tao hindi mag-aaksaya ng panahon para magtanong tanong tulad ng forum. o kaya nman wala syang pambayad sa abogado, oo nandyan ang PAO ngunit alam nman natin hindi lahat inaaccomodate dito.

maraming members na maaring gustong magka idea or walang pera na maghire kagad ng lawyer.. For sure he/ she can not rely only on this board alone as this board is just a guide or open opinion, perhaps like other board that all members can give their opinion and ideas.

In connection to the urgency of each case I dont think if the case is a matter of life and death eh may time pa sila mag "forum" sabi mo nga di ba... it seems kid_yolub issue is not that urgent after all kase nakatambay pa nga sya sa adult section... and again Admin aDiDas mentioned this as well.

as I said this board helped a lot of member from the past and still we will continue to give advices as far as we can up to the extent we can recommend then an actual lawyer to their nearest location... ( naalala ko meron pa nga gusto pati pambayad sa abogado tulungan din daw sya) but then if a member like you or Bohica will questioned our goodwill eh wala na po kami magagawa dun... plus this board has a disclaimer on the rules and guidelines

Thank you ,Have a good day and GodBless!

caligula · **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2013, 07:14:18 PM

We share the same goal: to help our members and to protect the site at the same time.
Good job ma'am and thank you. I rest my case.

Lord Nok Von Hauten · **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2013, 08:53:38 PM

Wow, ang galing naman ng mga ka members ko, dami kong natutunan ah...

kid_yolub · **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2013, 02:32:25 PM

sorry mga bossing medyo nawala ng ilang araw, anyway just to address my concern, ito po ang nangyari..

8 years ago nasasak ako ng isang adik sa amin. nadakip after 2 years at na sentensyahan. last year nbigyan ng parole dahil nagkasakit (TB) at halos butot balat na, dahil maganda kain sa labas at sariwa ang hangin medyo nakarecover, yung concern ko that time kasi nakasaksak uli at nakalabas after 38 hours dahil daw yung nasaksak d pa nagdemanda. ang tanong ko po kung parolado ka at nakagawa ka uli ng krimen d ba dapat balik kulungan ka?ang sabi ng pulis sa kanila ay iba daw ang sa akin iba rin daw sa bago nyang biktima. what if magfile uli ako ng ibang kaso laban sa kanya at kung anong kaso?

salamat po sa nagreply alam kung its better to ask for legal advice sa abogado mismo pero that time medyo nagugulahan lang ako sa sistema..salamat

My Board · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2013, 02:32:25 PM »