Philippines buying 2 brand-new warships

[xxxchoholic Rai ♥]

Illegal chinese fisher na palagi nakakalusot sa teritoryo natin..

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well wala kasi kinakatakutan na barko eh

hirap kasi sa atin puro luma mga gamit ng navy

[salvediaz]

ang problema eh, mababagal ang decision making sa bansa....ang tagal na eto pinag-uusapan, hanggang ngayon plano pa rin...next year, plano pa rin eto...pustahan tau...tsk tsk tsk....in the meantime, ginagawang katatawanan ang pinas sa foreign policy

[xxxchoholic Rai ♥]

ang problema eh, mababagal ang decision making sa bansa....ang tagal na eto pinag-uusapan, hanggang ngayon plano pa rin...next year, plano pa rin eto...pustahan tau...tsk tsk tsk....in the meantime, ginagawang katatawanan ang pinas sa foreign policy

so true like sa batanes puro mga taiwanese ships

ang makikita mo kahit may issue eh naroon sila at wala magawa ang coast guards doon

dahil wala sila barko at kung meron man masiyadong maliit ito kumpara sa gamit

ng mga foreign groups doon

[jhoni]

naka ilang presidnte na ba.. ang dumaan... wlang nabili...ang pinas... hayyssst dito na nagkakalaman kung sinu ang magaling na presidente.. si cory.. si ramos.. na sya pa naman ay isang general di nya alam.. kung papalakasin ang sandatahanng pinas.. tsktsk si erap.. di rin alam.. kasi kylangan padamihin dito mga pogi sa showbs... si gloria... walley! ngun si noynoy kaya... hhmmmm kung magkatotoo man yan sana makabili tayo.. ng ating tingnan nyo naman ngyayari sa pinas at mga tsikin... waa basta nalang nila pipitikin ang itlog ng mga pilipino alam nilang wala eh... duduraan mo nalang kalaban baka sakali umtras pa hahahaha.. kakatawa tong sitwasyon natin.. sa pinas... pero kung totoo talaga to sna mabvili na at paramihin...

tuloy nangungulila taong bayan sa mga palakad ni marcos noon.. butoi pa sya... sya ung dapakadaming nagawa proyekto sa pinas.. hayyyyst ung iba iwan!

[heyo_pineapple]

Bakit ngayon lang? Tsk tsk parang wala nang sense kung ngayon lang bibili at lalo pang lalala yung tension with the chinese government

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Need na talaga natin ng mga bagong warships, flagship natin WW2 na patrol boat diba?

[heyo_pineapple]

Yup kaylangan nga ng bago pero for sure yung bibilhin natin cheap din

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[marmaim]

magkano kaya sa 18B pesos ang mapupunta kay penoy and friends? relative to the situation of our entire military forces, this is a huge, huge thing tapos "undersecretary" lang ang main man? plausible denability ba? hehehe
besides, anybody remember all those coast guard boats na nabubulok lang at di nagagamit featured in a tv docu some years back? walang pang maintain at walang pambili ng gas. brand new o 5th hand man yang frigates na yan, kung walang budget for gas and maintenance eh wala ring kuwenta.
besides pa ulit: trained ba mga navy personnel natin gumamit at mag maintain ng mga yan? pagkabili saka lang magti train? brand new kalawang na aabutan nila hehehe
besides again: tama bang isipin nating one step forward na tayo in defending our territory against china or at least taiwan kasi nagpapa bid na tayo for 2 frigates?
besides ulit! : neither china or taiwan need to attack us militarily to damage or maybe even destroy us. economic nga banat ng taiwan di ba? you think the US would protest much against china bullying us? uh... hehehe
tama na ang bolahan...smoke screen na naman yan eh. buti sana kung pambiso lang sa tunay na estado ng defense ng bansa pero more likely eh pambiso lang yan sa kurakot.
kapag wala nang ma privatize...let's modernize! bwahahaha
laughable but not funny at all.

[Puswak63]

sana pag bumili sila bigyan nila ako ng balato

[serestro09]

we can build our own buildings,  computers ect... we have engineers  sa pinas ang daming skill ng pinoy bkit di nila kc gamitin ang sarili nting technology kung ang ibang maliliit na bansa nkagagawa ng sariling technology bkit hndi tyo hayzzz pinas gov nga nman umaasa lagi sa bili-bili kya ang ibang bnsa ang umuunlad kya tinatawanan lng ng ibang mga bansa ang military ntin saludo ako sa mga sundalo ntin pero hndi sa gov ntin   

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ang mahirap lang diyan is, portion ng budget siguradong makukurakot ng mga officials kaya di mamamaximize ang pag bili

[xxxchoholic Rai ♥]

we can build our own buildings,  computers ect... we have engineers  sa pinas ang daming skill ng pinoy bkit di nila kc gamitin ang sarili nting technology kung ang ibang maliliit na bansa nkagagawa ng sariling technology bkit hndi tyo hayzzz pinas gov nga nman umaasa lagi sa bili-bili kya ang ibang bnsa ang umuunlad kya tinatawanan lng ng ibang mga bansa ang military ntin saludo ako sa mga sundalo ntin pero hndi sa gov ntin   

true may sarili din tayong resources for materials bakit di maisip gumawa ng pinas?

pwede rin tayong magkaroon ng war factory at pagkataan rin natin

ang daming mahusay na pinoy di naman napapakinabangan

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honestly, ang mga "asenso" lang na nakikita kong ginagawa ng ph gov is yung pag gawa ng mga kalsadang di naman sira over and over again...

[amy2004]

My take on this issue are two things:

First the amount earmarked for the two frigates are not enough for us to buy a missile frigate, why missile frigate? because it's capability will pose a serious threat to it's opponent kung baga sa boxing may knock out power ito ma pa barko, eroplano at submarine man ang kaharap nito.
Second the two frigates kahit pa Missile frigate ito can be swarmed by a dozen missile fast attack boats so when push come to shove talo din tayo. For us to put up a decent defense posture as Sec. Del Rosatio said we need a dozen modern missiles frigates. and this will cost us Billions of Dollars to purchase and Billion of dollars more to maintain.

My ten cents worth of suggestion is why don't we adopt the Felix Chang solution! Felix Chang is a fellow of the Foreign Policy Research institute he has a paper entitled "Transforming the Philippines Defense Archeticture" . kayo na ang bahalang mag research sa Net about this. I believe sa budget natin mas praktikal na sundin ang payo nya.

[Prime™]

This is great for patrol and pakitang gilas sa mga insurgents and illegal fishermen etc.

Pero deterent of military vessels ng isang major power? Dream on.

They will swat these like flies.


The Philippines to be taken seriously must first become an economic power, then comes the military power, then comes the prestige.

If you settle for military first, then you've got yourself a North Korea.

If you go after prestige first? Well, you're just the village idiot among nations.

Economy and political stability is where it's at.

Once done, after a few years of economic nirvana, and you removed all insurgents and really stable ka na, you modernize your equipment, and if you're lucky you make your plea to your big dog allies, and maybe build nuclear weapons of your own in your own backyard.

Only as a deterrent, a "beware of the dog sign" to neighboring nations wanting to cut you down to size and your very existence as an independent (kuno) nation is threatened.

Just to say you can bite when push comes to shove.

You don't stop wars with boats. Silly. This isn't a game of red alert.

Anyway di na uso masyado war for territories thanks to globalization. Bihira na. It's more a war for spheres of infuence. It's cheaper than occupying a territory. Bat ba atat na atat na umalis ang mga kano sa Iraq and Afghanistan? Expensive. Mas madali hawak mo lang sa leeg ang namumuno at may utang sila sayo ng isang katerba.