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The True Color Ferdinand Marcos

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Reply #90 on: May 08, 2013, 04:00:07 PM
hindi para sayo ang sagot ko, ok? exchanging ideas lang naming dalawa yun and it doesn't need your opinion. hindi yan ang sagot ko sayo.

Basahin mo yung isa, yun ang para sayo..

Tragis yan..paganda ng paganda sloping argument mo sir Dimmu.. 

Paano mo na naman nasabing argument ito? I'm so exhausted the way you think..

Nice claim.."tapos hindi well documented"?

Tragis yan..paganda ng paganda sloping argument mo sir Dimmu.. 

kapanipaniwala! sana nilagyan mo ulit ng sources sa internet encyclopedia saka wikileaks..

oh by the way dito sa amin, nanggaling ang yung buddha statue ng mga hapones, ang pangalan "Golden" lol

enough of your bull sir dimmu.. you lost your credibility here. :P
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Reply #91 on: May 08, 2013, 04:19:55 PM
totoo kaya mga treasure ng mga japanese during marcos time.

In the book "Gold Warriors" written by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave notable Asian historical writers from the US.

There was in fact a rich loot of Japanese gold bullions recovered in batches in 1945. Separate pa po dito yung nakuha ni Rogelio Roxas sa Mountain Province na kilala sa tawag na golden buddha.

Most of the Japanese treasure were looted by the US government after one of Filipino who serves as a servant or valet of Emperor Hirohito's brother - Prince Chichibu named Ben Valmores revealed the Japanese Imperial Army's operation of hiding the treasures in the Philippines. The Japanese treasure/loot was codenamed "Kin No Yuri" or "Golden Lily"

A Filipino-American Intelligence officer named Severino Garcia Santa Romana extracted vital information during one of his torture sessions with Major Kojima Kashii who later led the US forces to the different vaults in Northern Luzon where most of the Japanese treasures were hidden. Kojima who's been severely tortured led Capt. Edward Lansdale and "Santy" Santa Romana to more than a dozen Golden Lily treasure vaults in the rugged country north of Manila. What they found astounded everyone from General Douglas MacArthur all the way up to the White House. After discussions with his cabinet, President Harry Truman decided to keep the recovery a state secret.
 
Santy's ensuing recoveries greatly altered America's leverage during the Cold War. According to senior US government officials and high-ranking US Army officers, the Truman administration set this treasure aside along with Axis loot recovered in Europe, as a secret political action fund to fight communism in the Cold War.
 

US President Harry Truman's desire to keep the recovery secret to the entire world was strategic. This was confirmed by a number of high-level sources, including former CIA deputy director Ray Cline, who knew about Santy's recoveries in 1945, and continued to be involved in attempts in the 1980s and 1990s to hide blocks of Japanese war loot still said to be in the vaults of banks in New York.

According to Ray Cline and others, between 1945 and 1947 the gold bullion recovered by "Santy" Santa Romana and Lansdale was moved discreetly to 172 accounts at banks in 42 countries.

Pertinent details from the book "Gold Warriors"

 
Pero i'm sure opinion lang ito para kay Sir Dimmu.. 8) 
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Reply #92 on: May 08, 2013, 04:30:51 PM
hindi para sayo ang sagot ko, ok? exchanging ideas lang naming dalawa yun and it doesn't need your opinion. hindi yan ang sagot ko sayo.

Basahin mo yung isa, yun ang para sayo..


this is an open forum..hindi naman sinabi na by invite ang pagcomment.



Para sa akin, totoo yung Marcos Treasure. Kasi dito sa amin meron nakuha si Marcos na tons of gold..

Di kasi ito well documented kaya parang nagiging haka haka na lang.
Paano mo na naman nasabing argument ito?


An argument is composed of propositions, propositions carries ideas. FYI. You even stated it "Categorically" - Totoo ang Marcos treasure kasi may nakuha sa dito sa amin" tama?  Aral aral din ng Logic sir..

How true na Marcos/Japanese treasure nga? Kasi sabi mo lang? Eh kulang nga yung supporting details mo para maging credible at valid yang "idea" mo.

I'm so exhausted the way you think..

I dare ask why are you complaining for getting too exhausted when it is me who's doing the thinking. At least i'm not only thinking but rationalizing as well.
Mapagod ka kung ikaw talaga'y nagiisip..hihihi  ;D

Read More! Di ka pa makakagraduate sa kin. lol
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Reply #93 on: May 08, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
Oooops! I missed this one, here have all the pleasure reading..

How would i consider an uninformed opinion?
paulit ulit, di nga ako nagbibigay ng analysis ko.. Kelan mo ba ito maiintindihan?

Against ito dun sa quotation na ginagamit ko..
  No wonder you end up like that, giving uninformed opinions..


It is not an alibi, it's all about fairness since yung mga sinasabi ko sau eh pinaghihirapan kong ipaste dito para di ka na maghanap.. pinagresearch ba kita?

Yeah I agree, you have worked hard enough posting, but too lazy to substantiate them.

"Galit din naman ito kay Makoy eh"

Galit ba ako kay marcos? NO... for the record, di ako pro or anti marcos or pro or anti aquino..

Why is it you that i'm addressing here? I've used him as a reference being an Anti Marcos author and writer. Are you in the same class or level? Feeling ka naman masyado diyan Sir Dimmu.

Ganyan ka na ba kagaling para malaman mo kung galit ako o hindi kay Marcos.. The problem is, pinag aaralan mo at inaanalisa mo ang isang bagay tapos pagdating mo sa dulo gagawa ka ng sarili mong conclusion na which is very flawed..

Then so be it. Kung flawed man siya at least I have all the audacity to present my argument completely whether thru the spirit of the letter and substance. How about you? Can you also make such claims kung hindi mo nga mabali bali yang mga ideas mo? Are you an egoistic freak to address me on such? Lame!


Dumarating ka sa puntong pati sarili kong pag iisip ay nalalaman mo na.. Even, you didn't even know me personally. Nahusgahan mo na kaagad ako using your own analysis..


Wow ginawa mo pa kong psychic..Ano ako si Bella ng Twilight? lol As i've said in one earlier post, You are what you deserve! Whatever comes around goes around. Don't blame me or other posters here for your failure of refuting effectively other forumers' posts.

See how bigot you are, nagagalit/napipikon ka pag nababara ka. If you don't like suffering and getting tormented by other people's reactions then by all means..Stop posting or commenting unfounded claims.

I have one piece of sisterly advice Sir Dimmu, Read and Be More Substantial!

That is not the right thing.

Sabihin mo sa sarili mo yan!



 
 

 
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Reply #94 on: May 08, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
Hahaha you love birds still at it?

Peace na kayo hahaha! Dimmu throw in the towel, this girl right here is in it to win it! Hahaha!
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Reply #95 on: May 08, 2013, 11:45:55 PM

Hahaha you love birds still at it?

OMG! Lovebirds? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!! Sir Prime/Primus naman eeehh! :-[     

You could have said adversaries, rivals, nemesis or frenemies.. ;D Grabe gawan ba ng twist? Aaaaargh!  :'(

Peace na kayo hahaha

Di naman po kami nag-aaway eh, debate lang naman po ito.  :)


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Reply #96 on: May 09, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
Wow ginawa mo pa kong psychic.

If you have critically analyzed documentary programs leading to the EDSA Elite's uprising the Opposition led by Ninoy's widow would be the best alternative in promoting US interests..


Sa pag analisa mo ng mga  bagay bagay dumating ka  sa conclusion na ganito which indeed refuted by Ongpin.. Ipinapakita lang nito kung gaano ka flaws ang argument mo..

Tapos ang reasoning mo na naman minamalign ni Ongpin si Marcos.

Endless stories just to prove your claim. The vulnerability of human being exist in you.

Have you ever wondered who really killed Ninoy? of course you're gonna point a finger again on the same and often-maligned president...

Ano pala tawag mo dito kung di ka si Madam Auring...

"Galit din naman ito kay Makoy eh"

Re examine para makuha mo ang gusto kong sabihin..

Napakaraming flaws ng argumento mo sa simula pa lang.Napakahaba kung iisa isahin ko..

Pero walang katapusan ang pagtatalong ito dahil you're old enough pero until now di mo pa rin alam ang difference ng opinion and facts....


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Reply #97 on: May 09, 2013, 11:46:29 AM



Sa pag analisa mo ng mga  bagay bagay dumating ka  sa conclusion na ganito which indeed refuted by Ongpin.. Ipinapakita lang nito kung gaano ka flaws ang argument mo..


Naaah, it wasn't a conclusion, it was a substantiated insight. Basa basa pa Sir Dimmu. Sipag sipag din.

Tapos ang reasoning mo na naman minamalign ni Ongpin si Marcos.

Endless stories just to prove your claim. The vulnerability of human being exist in you.


Malign? Or understanding and analyzing his motives? Eh ikaw nama pala ang sobrang guilty ng pagiging judgmental dito eh.. Baka ikaw yung nakakabasa sa isip ko.

To err is to be human, I'll gladly accept it.. eh ikaw? Bigot? An egocentric freak who lives and dies on the very issue that your opinion par excellence which unfortunately lacks in substance carries the weight of a sage? Holy cow! 

Have you ever wondered who really killed Ninoy? of course you're gonna point a finger again on the same and often-maligned president...

Ano pala tawag mo dito kung di ka si Madam Auring...

It really shows you really don't have a background on Aristotlean Logic do you? Most of my rebuttal on your "intellectually-challenged" positions are stated hypothetically.. and if they are categorically stated, they are well substantiated. Please aralin mo nga or balikan mo kung kumuha ka ng logic yung topics about ideas, terms, propositions, syllogisms and pati fallacies na rin para maging sensible naman ang pagsagot mo.



Napakaraming flaws ng argumento mo sa simula pa lang.Napakahaba kung iisa isahin ko..

Fallacious, your subject is irrelevant sa predicate mo, it doesn't mean kung mahabang basahin eh flawed na. Come on Sir Dimmu is this the best (or the worst) that you could throw back? You're saying it's flawed, substantiate it, tapatan mo ng teorya at analysis. Lintik naman, fact or opinion ka pa rin? Please evolve Brother.

Pero walang katapusan ang pagtatalong ito dahil you're old enough pero until now di mo pa rin alam ang difference ng opinion and facts....

What's my age got to do with ending this engaging discussion? First you attacked my thoughts, then you labeled my reasoning, and now taunting my age?  What's next Sir Dimmu? Let me guess... fact and opinion pa din? hahaha! :P



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Reply #98 on: May 09, 2013, 01:30:40 PM
Anyway, ni research mo na ba ang difference ng facts and opinion?
At yung pina pa re examine ko..
 
yang dalawa ang assignment mo mamaya pagkatapos mong magluto....

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Reply #99 on: May 09, 2013, 02:51:59 PM
Anyway, ni research mo na ba ang difference ng facts and opinion?
At yung pina pa re examine ko..
 


Wow do i see a "Red Herring" coming?

I said my piece regarding these two..relative itong dalawa di ba yun po ang sabi ko? Before you continue your habit of being fallacious and embarrassing yourself go find a logic book and study it with zeal sir Dimmu. Di ka maka-move on sa topic na ikaw lang ang namamangha.

yang dalawa ang assignment mo mamaya pagkatapos mong magluto....

Naaah beggars can't choose and dictate what they want.. hindi ka pa nga nakakasalag sa mga posts ko then you demand on this? Pity and curse your wounded pride. Sa sobrang sakit at kahihiyan sa pinagsasagot mo dito kung anu-ano na lang sinasabi mo.

Come on be more substantial. Sinimulan mo sa pag-invoke sa mga sources mo eh like internet encyclopedia and wikileaks and your noble claim of informing everyone through your rabid posts tapos ganito ka na lang babanat?

Be a Man Sir Dimmu, And be a gentleman as well who could admit that he too lacks the knowledge and the analytical skills of expounding and rationalizing  topics as interesting on this thread.

I told you way back, kung flawed man ang posts ko dito so be it. Pero at least i substantiate it. Fact or Opinion? It's similar with the Egg and Chicken Question, iikot at iikot lang yan, relative yan. And madalas yung mahina lang magreason out ang bumibira niyan.

Pambihira hanap ka ng hanap ng butas sa topic an obsessed na obsessed ka - Fact and Opinion eh hindi ka nga makatibag ng arguments ng iba. Worse you even label them implicitly and explicitly in accordance to your feeble understanding.

Ikaw rin ang sumisira sa sarili mo dito. How can you become credible and even be a respected forumer here if you continue to bury yourself in that abysmal intolerance that you practice. Kahit sa sarili mo, mahiya ka naman.

Shame! :o 

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Reply #100 on: May 09, 2013, 03:17:03 PM
Hahaha you love birds still at it?

OMG! Lovebirds? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!! Sir Prime/Primus naman eeehh! :-[     

You could have said adversaries, rivals, nemesis or frenemies.. ;D Grabe gawan ba ng twist? Aaaaargh!  :'(

Peace na kayo hahaha

Di naman po kami nag-aaway eh, debate lang naman po ito.  :)

Bwahahaha... Bff's? My homie? My brother from another mother? A sister from another mister?

Hahaha!

Alright, I just thought I would chime in with my wisdom of the ages. Carry-on kiddo. ; )
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Reply #101 on: May 09, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Bwahahaha... Bff's? My homie? My brother from another mother? A sister from another mister?

Hahaha!

Alright, I just thought I would chime in with my wisdom of the ages. Carry-on kiddo. ; )


Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkk! Ano ba Sir Prime, it's disgusting.....I can't believe you're gonna piggyback ride on what you earlier said. hahaha..



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Reply #102 on: May 09, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
i hope the "author" cited the source of the data below.

Ferdinand Marcos was born in Sarrat, Ilocos North, on September 11, 1917, to Josefa Edralin and Mariano Marcos, both teachers. Mariano was later a two-term congressman and during World War II, a collaborator with the Japanese. Subsequently he was tied to four water buffalo by Filipino guerrillas and pulled apart. Marcos' real father, a man Marcos claimed was his "godfather," was a wealthy Chinese named Ferdinand Chua. He was a well-connected municipal judge who was responsible for much of Marcos' unusually good luck. Among other things, Chua paid for young Marcos' schooling and managed to influence the Philippine Supreme Court to throw out the solid testimony which in 1939 had convicted Marcos of murder.

Marcos did well in school, as he had an extraordinary memory which allowed him to quickly memorize complicated texts and recite them forwards or backwards. In college, Marcos' principal interest was the .22-caliber college pistol team. On September 20, 1935, Julio Nalundasan was at home celebrating that day's Congressional election victory over Mariano Marcos when he was shot and killed with a .22-caliber bullet fired by the 18-year-old Marcos. Three years later, the honors student who was in his senior year of law school, was arrested for Nalundasan's murder. A year later, now a law school graduate, he was found guilty "beyond any reasonable doubt." Jailed, Marcos spent six months writing his own 830-page appeal. He also took the Philippine bar exam and passed with scores so high he was accused of cheating. Upon an oral re-examination by the Supreme Court, Marcos scored even higher with his remarkable memory. When the Supreme Court finally took up Marcos's appeal in 1940, the judge in charge (allegedly influenced by Judge Chua) was disposed to simply throw the case out. Marcos was a free man. The next day, he returned to the Supreme Court where he was administered his oath as a lawyer.

Marcos emerged from World War II with the reputation of being the greatest Filipino resistance leader of the war and the most decorated soldier in the U.S. Armed forces. (Marcos served in the U.S. Army at the beginning and the end of the war as a "third lieutenant" on clerical duty, for a time in 1944 he was a U.S. prisoner of war under a death sentence) The Army investigated these claims after the war and found them to be false and "criminal." In fact, Marcos seems to have spent the war on both sides, and at various times, was in hospitals with fevers and stomach pains, possibly from the onset of lupus, the degenerative disease that ultimately ruined his health. In early 1943 in Manila, Marcos concocted a "secret" resistance organization called Ang Mga Maharlika ("Noble Studs") which he claimed consisted of spies, saboteurs and assassins, but in fact consisted of many forgers, pickpockets, gunmen and racketeers, united by an interest in black market operations.

At the war's end, as a deputy to the U.S. Army judge advocate general in northern Luzon, Marcos was involved in choosing friends and relatives to fill minor civil service jobs, passing out favors to be redeemed later. After, he resumed his law practice, often filing false claims in Washington on behalf of Filipino veterans seeking back pay and benefits. Emboldened by his success, he filed a $595,000 claim on his own behalf, stating that the U.S. Army had commandeered over 2,000 head of brahmin cattle from Mariano Marcos's wholly imaginary ranch in Mindinao. Washington concluded that the cattle had never existed. Marcos also tried to get recognition and benefits for his resistance force, the Ang Mga Maharlika; army investigators concluded that Marcos's unit was fraudulent.

In December, 1948, after a luncheon meeting with Marcos, a magazine editor published four articles on Marcos's extraordinary war exploits, including the history of the Maharlika just after the army's findings of fraud. Marcos' reputation grew. In 1949, campaigning on promises to get veterans' benefits for 2 million more "unrecognized" Filipinos, Marcos ran on the Liberal Party ticket for a seat in the Philippine House of Representatives and won astonishingly, with 70 percent of the vote. In less than a year he was worth a million dollars and owned a Cadillac convertible, mostly because of his American tobacco subsidies, a colossal cigarette smuggling operation, and his practice of extorting commissions from Chinese businesses. In 1954 he formally met Imelda Romualdez and married her.

Marcos was reelected twice, and in 1959 was elected to the Philippine Senate. He was also the Liberal Party's vice-president from 1954-1961, when he successfully managed Diosdado Macapagal's campaign for the Philippine presidency. As part of the deal, Macapagal was supposed to step aside after one term to allow Marcos to run for the presidency, but when Macapagal reneged, Marcos joined the opposition Nationalist Party and became their candidate in the 1965 election against Macapagal, which Marcos won handily strongly helped by Hartzell Spence's biography, called For Every Tear A Victory.

In 1969, Marcos became the first Philippine president to win a second term; the month following produced the most violent and bloody public demonstrations so far in the history of the country. Three years later, facing growing student unrest and a crumbling economy, Marcos declared martial law, using as his excuse the growing rebel presence of the Communist New People's Army. During the nine years of martial law, he tripled the armed forces to some 200,000 troops, guaranteeing his grip on government, and when martial law was lifted in 1981, he kept all the power he had been granted by himself. Bled to death, the economy continued to crumble as Ferdinand and Imelda became "arguably the richest couple on the planet." Marcos's health began to fail, the United States cooled off, and political opposition took hold in the Philippine middle class.

The Marcos regime began its accelerated collapse after the August 1983 assassination of Benigno S. Aquino, Jr., gunned down at the Manila airport upon his return after a self-imposed three-year exile. The killing enraged Filipinos, as did the official story that the murder was the work of a single assassin. A year later, a civilian investigation brought indictments against a number of soldiers and government officials, but by 1985 they all had been acquitted. In a surprising blunder, Marcos, thinking to regain control of the situation, called for a "snap election" to be held early in 1986. The election was marred by violence and charges of fraud; his opponent was the martyred Aquino's widow, Corazon. When the Philippine National Assembly announced that Marcos was the winner, a military rebellion, supported by hundreds of thousands of Filipinos marching in the streets, forced the Marcos to flee the country. Marcos' plea to the Americans for help produced nothing more than a U.S. Air Force jet, which flew him and Imelda to Hawaii. He remained there until his death in 1989. They took with them some 300 crates of prized possessions and more than 28 million cash, in Philippine currency. President Aquino's administration said this was only a small part of the Marcos's five to ten billion of illegally acquired wealth; Ferdinand's frozen bank accounts in Switzerland were said to have $475 million. In 1995, the government was able to auction off three jewelry collections worth $13 million.

 Economy During MArcos


To help finance a number of economic development projects, the Marcos government borrowed large amounts of money from international lenders.[45][46] The Philippines' external debt rose from $360 million (US) in 1962 to $28.3 billion in 1986, making the Philippines one of the most indebted countries in Asia.[45] A sizable amount of this money went to Marcos family and friends in the form of behest loans. These loans were assumed by the government and still being serviced by taxpayers. Today, more than half of the country's revenues are outlaid for the payments on the interests of loans alone.[citation needed]

Foreign capital was invited to invest in certain industrial projects. They were offered incentives, including tax exemption privileges and the privilege of bringing out their profits in foreign currencies. One of the most important economic programs in the 1980s was the Kilusang Kabuhayan at Kaunlaran (Movement for Livelihood and Progress). This program was started in September 1981. Its aim was to promote the economic development of the barangays by encouraging its residents to engage in their own livelihood projects. The government's efforts resulted in the increase of the nation's economic growth rate to an average of six percent or seven percent from 1970 to 1980.[47]

The Philippine economy suffered a great decline after the Aquino assassination in August 1983. The political troubles hindered the entry of foreign investments, and foreign banks stopped granting loans to the Philippine government.[citation needed] In an attempt to launch a national economic recovery program, Marcos negotiated with foreign creditors including the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), for a restructuring of the country's foreign debts – to give the Philippines more time to pay the loans. Marcos ordered a cut in government expenditures and used a portion of the savings to finance the Sariling Sikap (Self-Reliance), a livelihood program he established in 1984.[citation needed]

However, the economy experienced negative economic growth from the beginning of 1984 and continued to decline despite the government's recovery efforts. The recovery program's failure was caused by civil unrest, rampant graft and corruption within the government, and Marcos's lack of credibility. Marcos himself diverted large sums of government money to his party's campaign funds. The unemployment rate ballooned from 6.30% in 1972 to 27.65% in 1985.[48][citation needed]

Between 1972 and 1980, the average monthly income of wage workers had fallen by 20%. By 1981, the wealthiest 10% of the population was receiving twice as much income as the bottom 60%.[49]

With help from the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations, Marcos brought the "Green Revolution" (industrialized, chemical agriculture) to the Philippines. These reforms resulted in high profits for transnational corporations, but were generally harmful to small, peasant farmers who were often pushed into poverty.[50] After declaring martial law in 1972, Marcos promised to implement agrarian reforms. However, the land reforms "served largely to undermine Marcos' landholder opponents, not to lessen inequality in the countryside",[51] and "encouraged conversion to cash tenancy and greater reliance on farm workers".[52] From 1972 to 1980, agricultural production fell by 30%.[49]

Under Marcos, exports of timber products were among the nation's top exports. Little attention was paid to environmental impacts of deforestation. By the early 1980s, the industry collapsed because most of the Philippines' accessible forests had been depleted.[53]


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Reply #103 on: May 09, 2013, 04:14:29 PM
Fact or Opinion? It's similar with the Egg and Chicken Question, iikot at iikot lang yan, relative yan. And madalas yung mahina lang magreason out ang bumibira niyan.

I will rest my argument here. It's a shame that your talking about logic and reasoning and yet you don't know the difference between the two.

The proper approach for you within this debate (kung debate nga ang tawag mo dito) is to to state that “this is my opinion.”  Unfortunately, sinasabi mong ang opinyon mo ay ang totoo na which resulted kaya nag contradict ako dahil wala ka namng maayos na ebidensya maliban sa analysis mo. Opinions are not facts and should not be portrayed as such.

Your using logical fallacy which is an erroneous argument na nakabase lamang sa a faulty logic method mo na nagreresulta sa false conclusion. How many times na nagbanggit ka dito ng false conclusion. Essentially, mga defective arguments that are put forward tapos sinasabi mong valid arguments.

Topics i've posted here is not subject for debate since it was already a fact..
 
That's the reason why, tinanong kita kung anong pagkakaiba nung dalawa, since na di mo naman pala alam, wala naman tayong dapat pang pagtalunan..





 

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Reply #104 on: May 09, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
I will rest my argument here. It's a shame that your talking about logic and reasoning and yet you don't know the difference between the two.

irrelevant ang issue ng favorite attack line mo sa mga posts ko about your thread. fact or opinion question is just a futile exercise manong dimmu. you're trying to lock me at the boxing corner na as if it's your means to your survival. Trying to save your face here? Wala na basag na linya mo eh.

saka tayo magusap sa fact and opinion mo pag marunong ka ng mag-substantiate ng mga pinagpopost mo about Marcos ok?

read books as many as you can.. i still have two weeks of my vacation left before school starts, siguro naman may nabasa ka na kahit isa.

The proper approach for you within this debate (kung debate nga ang tawag mo dito) is to to state that “this is my opinion.”  Unfortunately, sinasabi mong ang opinyon mo ay ang totoo na which resulted kaya nag contradict ako dahil wala ka namng maayos na ebidensya maliban sa analysis mo. Opinions are not facts and should not be portrayed as such.

Why did i say I'm right with all of my posts here? Did I force the issue on anyone here that mine are the words of all the sages combined? And before you lecture me on my rationalizations strengthen your reasoning or logical thinking skills first, you're just going on circles in the last 4 or 5 pages of this thread.

Your using logical fallacy which is an erroneous argument na nakabase lamang sa a faulty logic method mo na nagreresulta sa false conclusion. How many times na nagbanggit ka dito ng false conclusion. Essentially, mga defective arguments that are put forward tapos sinasabi mong valid arguments.

Go ahead prove it..Game on Sir Dimmu, ilabas mo na yang knock out punchline este argument mo.. Say something about the topic you started with substance. Come on, kaya mo yan sir Dimmu.


Topics i've posted here is not subject for debate since it was already a fact.. Wow! It's just like an analogy of Zaide telling Ambeth Ocampo that historical facts can't be changed because the former wrote them. Ayos hindi ka lang irrational, dictatorial ka pa! Who you to decide what's debatable or not in an open forum thread? Ano ka nasa China or North Korea na pag may dissenting voice sasabihian na"shut up because i'm the only one who's right?" ganun ba ang logic nun? Enough of your bigotry!

 
That's the reason why, tinanong kita kung anong pagkakaiba nung dalawa, since na di mo naman pala alam, wala naman tayong dapat pang pagtalunan..

Seems your running away from a fight you have started..Still finding a graceful exit? Should I call the plane and bring you to Paoay or Hawaii Sir Dimmu?

Funny that in your last desperate attempt to change the order of things and unceasing deception you continue to howl differences between Fact and Opinion when the true of issue of your thread doesn't lie there. It's on the manner how you analyze and substantiate the circumstances how those facts and opinions came to be.

Kakahiya, you call yourself a thread starter? Rubbish!

Youl lived and died in an issue not worth being highlighted. Kay gandang thread at topic nasira dahil lang sa kapalaluan mo. Kahit ang mga pantas umaamin na nagkakamali din. Pero sa kahangalan naman nasisira ang kanilang mga salita.

But one thing that I admire on you Sir Dimmu is your pride. ;)

Go Rest and Be at Peace Sir Dimmu! See you on your next journey...on these threads here at www.pinoycyberkada.com   ;D
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