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Title: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: mico on May 28, 2013, 01:38:38 AM
A lot of NBA Teams in history had made a failure in terms of Personnel decisions and movements (Perhaps poor scouting reports) let me start with these lists.

1. Sam Bowie - 1984 (one of the best draft class) Picked as 2nd overall by Portland after Hakeem Olajuwon was picked 1st by Rockets, Sam Bowie's injuries kept him from achieving his potential as a pro averaging 10pts per game in 10 seasons. And Guess who Chicago picked as #3, Michael Jordan.

2. Darko Milicic - 2003 (Another Best draft Class) Picked as 2nd overall by Detroit Pistons after Lebron James, 7 footer Darko only averaged 4 pts per game last season. Carmelo Anthony, Wade, Chris Bosh, David West are still available .

3. Greg Oden - 2007 - Portland Once again made another bust, Choosing Greg Oden, After an injury-plagued start to his career that included micro-fracture surgery on his knee, Oden is a free agent after the Portland Trail Blazers released him at the end of the 2011-12 season. OKC Thunder then Chose Kevin Durant, now a three-time NBA scoring champ who led the Oklahoma City Thunder to the NBA Finals in 2012.

4. Kwame Brown - 2001, 6'11 1st overall pick chosen by MJ's Washington Wizards. He is now on his 7th team as a journeyman, He was chosen as 7th pick ahead of: Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol, Joe Johnson, Zach Randolph, Gilbert Arenas, Tony Parker.

5. Vlade Divac (trade) 1996 - Charlotte Hornets, surprisingly trade their 13th First overall pick to LA Lakers for 6 year Veteran Center Vlade Divac - The 13th Overall Pick turns out to be none other than: Kobe Bryant.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: kingjames24szupladoh on May 28, 2013, 08:58:29 AM
dami palang oportunity ng portland sinayang nila haha , first si Bowie den si Oden , imagine kung nasa Portland si Jordan + drexler and cliff robinson ewan ko na lang haha . . .
tas si Durantula + Aldridge + B-Roy kahit short lived lang ang career tyak makaka ilang finals appearance yan . . .
Kung sakali lang naman hehe . . .
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: McLovin on May 28, 2013, 09:07:29 AM
si kwame brown ang nakakatawa dahil sabi ni MJ na siya daw ang susunod sa trono niya hahaha!
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: lusotako on May 29, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
How about Joe Alexander? may potential kaso nawala
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: chillout on May 29, 2013, 09:03:03 PM
nabasa ko dati na in 1984, inoffer ng trailblazers sa rockets yung #2 pick and drexler for ralph sampson. the rockets turned down the offer. imagine if inaccept nila yun, they could have drafted olajuwon with the 1st pick, jordan with the 2nd then nasa kanila pa si drexler. Ang lakas sana nila.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: krimson38 on May 30, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
I only started to really follow the NBA draft in 2003, with all the hype of Lebron James. Darko at #2 was really the biggest draft blunder in a top 5 draft class that included James, Anthony, Bosh, and Wade. Although, lots of teams were intrigued by the potential of international big man back then, and Darko did win a championship with Detroit before everybody else, heh.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: THE ANIMAL on June 01, 2013, 02:05:59 PM
How about christian laettner of the fab four?
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: mico on June 02, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
How about christian laettner of the fab four?

Well atleast Shaq and Zo Mourning were chosen ahead of him and I think only latrell sprewell and robert horry are the well known players that weren't pick after him.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: GoodnightGuy on June 02, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
kaya naman di nila pinili si jordan kasi nasa kanila na si drexler. mas kelangan nila si bowie that time kasi naunahan sila kay olajuwon. and di rin nila alam na magiging ganun potential ni jordan. and is oden halimaw talaga, malaki rin expectation ko nung na-draft sya. olats lang na injured kaagad. parang si bowie. hehehe. malas lang talaga portland. pati si broy wala na.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: romeo s. bleeding on June 06, 2013, 10:10:21 PM
Sa akin, si Greg Oden.
Top pick pero mahina naman ang tuhod.
Sayang lang.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: krimson38 on August 22, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
Oden has a chance to revive his NBA career with the Miami Heat. Hopefully he stays healthy, and contribute some meaningful minutes for the defending champs.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: tonistork on August 24, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
Well atleast Shaq and Zo Mourning were chosen ahead of him and I think only latrell sprewell and robert horry are the well known players that weren't pick after him.

statistically, Laettner had a better stats than Horry, but Horry won a lot of championships kaya naging mas well-known kaysa sa No. 3 pick that year.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: Ozymandias on August 27, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
statistically, Laettner had a better stats than Horry, but Horry won a lot of championships kaya naging mas well-known kaysa sa No. 3 pick that year.

It's not the championships, it's his 3 Point Clutch Shooting.

For me Kwame Brown is the worst draft pick in History. Darko is talented naman, mas magaling pa sya sa ibang nba players i.m.o., he just got drafted in a wrong team.

Yea Greg Oden sobrang sayang if it wasn't for his injuries.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: tonistork on August 30, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
It's not the championships, it's his 3 Point Clutch Shooting.


Horry won 7 championships (2 with Houston, 3 with Lakers and 2 with Spurs), so palagay ko mas madami ito compared sa ipinukol nyang clutch 3s sa championship. Ung pinukol nya against the Kings (his most famous three-point shot) was for the Western Finals at di pa sa Finals.

And history favored (at ito ang natatandaan ng future basketball fanatics) those who won championships and not with who throw a clutch 3-pointer taht won a game for his team.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: zzgundam on August 30, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
Worst trade bust: Andrew Bynum. 0 games played with the 76ers. WTF?
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: Ozymandias on August 31, 2013, 03:54:50 PM
Horry won 7 championships (2 with Houston, 3 with Lakers and 2 with Spurs), so palagay ko mas madami ito compared sa ipinukol nyang clutch 3s sa championship. Ung pinukol nya against the Kings (his most famous three-point shot) was for the Western Finals at di pa sa Finals.

And history favored (at ito ang natatandaan ng future basketball fanatics) those who won championships and not with who throw a clutch 3-pointer taht won a game for his team.

Really? So if we talk about Adam Morrisson and Luke Walton, are we going to remember them as a 2× NBA champion??? Hmmm  :-\

Robert Horry will always be remembered as Big Shot Rob because of his clutch shooting. Whether it's for the playoffs or in the regular season game. Kaya nga meron sa NBA.com na Robert Horry clutch Meter e diba? If you ever visit NBA. They rate if a certain player who made a clutch shooting is in par with Robert Horry's.

What I know is that people will always talk about that Bill Russell has 11 rings, MJ has 6, Wilt Scored 100 points, Magic Johnson has 5. Karl Malone and Barkley has none. Most people won't talk about Robert Horry having 7 rings, because he's a role player not a Superstar or HOF but he will always be remembered in NBA's Best Moments as a clutch shooter. Another is Steve Kerr's clutch shooting for the Bulls and for the Spurs din.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: tonistork on September 01, 2013, 12:46:02 PM
Really? So if we talk about Adam Morrisson and Luke Walton, are we going to remember them as a 2× NBA champion??? Hmmm  :-\


of course, kahit naman bench player sila at seldom used, 2x champion pa din sila at un maaalala ng mga basketball fanatics na di makakalimutin? na minsan naging part sila ng Lakers championship, bangko man at nasa end of the bench players sila.

Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: Ozymandias on September 02, 2013, 12:03:25 AM
of course, kahit naman bench player sila at seldom used, 2x champion pa din sila at un maaalala ng mga basketball fanatics na di makakalimutin? na minsan naging part sila ng Lakers championship, bangko man at nasa end of the bench players sila.

Oo naman kasi they're part of the team. Pero people(fans & media) will always give the credits sa mga players na may big role in a team's championship run. Sige for example, the Boston Celtics 1985-1986 season, without using google, automatic maalala mo yung Big 3 nila si Bird, Parish, & Mchale, then there's Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, and Bill Walton. Kahit 2 o 3 decades later, palaging sila yung notable players sa team na yan.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: tonistork on September 02, 2013, 11:11:52 AM
Oo naman kasi they're part of the team. Pero people(fans & media) will always give the credits sa mga players na may big role in a team's championship run. Sige for example, the Boston Celtics 1985-1986 season, without using google, automatic maalala mo yung Big 3 nila si Bird, Parish, & Mchale, then there's Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, and Bill Walton. Kahit 2 o 3 decades later, palaging sila yung notable players sa team na yan.

you forgot to mention Cedric Maxwell, who upstaged his more celebrated teammates during Celtics title run in 1981 when he won the Finals MVP.

and Rick Carlisle, who eventhough a mere bench player and averaged a measly output of 2.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg during his stint as a Celtic from 1984-87, he was always addressed as a champion player (Boston 1986) and a champion coach (Dallas 2011).
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: Ozymandias on September 02, 2013, 01:25:14 PM
you forgot to mention Cedric Maxwell, who upstaged his more celebrated teammates during Celtics title run in 1981 when he won the Finals MVP.

and Rick Carlisle, who eventhough a mere bench player and averaged a measly output of 2.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg during his stint as a Celtic from 1984-87, he was always addressed as a champion player (Boston 1986) and a champion coach (Dallas 2011).

Good atleast nakuha mo na yung point ko. For new generation of NBA Fans, they won't even know who are the bench players for that championship run during the 80s era, important sa kanila yung mga stars of that team. Erpats ko Lakers and Bulls fan at palagi namemention nya palagi si Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Pippen, Rodman at Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Draft/Trade Busts History
Post by: Asiong Salonga on September 25, 2013, 04:47:14 PM
sayang lang ang detroit nun kung kinuha nila chris bosh o carmelo may tulong sana
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