Yung Hunter X Hunter ang kwentuhan dito

[angelmassacre]

Also in the GI arc makikita natin kung paano tinalo ni Gon si Gensru eventhough there was a huge gap of skill and power between them, all because of Killua's strategy. Kaya sa tingin ko given kurapika's intelligence kaya nya ang ryodan, malakas sila pero hindi sila ganun katalino, well,it can even be said na dependent sila sa dancho nila.

[Ozymandias]

Back on feitan, madidi-activate ang painpacker niya if he is forced to go on zetsu state. tsaka di naman sya ganun kalakas, well he's fast but hes not the fastest in hxh world, tsaka kung malakas talaga siya dapat nagkaroon na ng interest si Hisoka sa kanya. kahit nga si Kalluto na isang zoldyck hindi pumasa kay Hisoka.

I beg to differ, halos lahat ng nasa spider interested makalaban ni Hisoka even with Kalluto, as an evidence to support it, nilagay na ni Togashi yung mga interesting for him.



Favorite toy kasi ni Hisoka si Kuroro Lucifer at si Gon.

Back-up your claims din, nasabi din lahat ng present sa battle ng mga spider vs chimera ant na malakas yung pain packer ni Feitan at muntik na mamatay si Shizuku nung gusto niya makita in action yung ability nya and the more damage he receives, the stronger it becomes.

...Kaya sa tingin ko given kurapika's intelligence kaya nya ang ryodan, malakas sila pero hindi sila ganun katalino, well,it can even be said na dependent sila sa dancho nila.

Matalino lahat ng members ng Ryodan, evident yan na hanggang ngayon di pa sila nahuhuli o napapatay ng ibang hunter, at kung di sila matalino dapat pinatay na nila si Kurapika, pero hindi diba? Alam kasi nila na given yung strong grudge ni Kurapika against sa members ng Spiders, yung residual nen after nila mapatay si Kurapika ay highly possible na mapatay ang Boss nila. They wanted to save their boss para di masayang yung sacrifice ni Pakunoda.

[saix66]

kurapika can beat some members of spiders but not all..

[xxxchoholic Rai ♥]

kurapika can beat some members of spiders but not all..

i'll agree on this one he can really defeat some

but not totally all 'cause every members have different abilities..

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[saix66]

even if he has emperor time(tama ba)..nen ability is so deep that you can even develop a new technique in the  middle of battle..and some members (not all) in spiders has more likely the same intellegence with kurapika..

[Zurca]

so who do you think from the phantom troupe has the best chance to beat kurapika?
 
nobunaga? machi? phinks? feitan? shalnark? shizuku? kortopi, franklin, kalluto, bonolenov? that's the current members of ryodan.

[xxxchoholic Rai ♥]

yup their brains can be compared and maybe beyond

kurapika's intellect.. the only reason why kurapika defeated uvojin eh

walang special abilities si uvo.. its just pure power.. 

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[angelmassacre]

I beg to differ, halos lahat ng nasa spider interested makalaban ni Hisoka even with Kalluto, as an evidence to support it, nilagay na ni Togashi yung mga interesting for him.



Favorite toy kasi ni Hisoka si Kuroro Lucifer at si Gon.

Back-up your claims din, nasabi din lahat ng present sa battle ng mga spider vs chimera ant na malakas yung pain packer ni Feitan at muntik na mamatay si Shizuku nung gusto niya makita in action yung ability nya and the more damage he receives, the stronger it becomes. 

If he really is interested with the other limbs of the spider eh di sana hindi nya tinulungan si Kurapika back in the york new city arc, he could've fight all of them, pero hindi diba? He went as far as disguising himself as a member of the spider, for what? Kuroro.

Also he betrayed them by telling Kurapika their skills, para saan? diba in exchange na makalaban si Kuroro ng solo?

tsaka ayon din sa lovely ghost writer na ninakaw ni Kuroro mamamatay kalahati ng spiders, isipin nyo kung hindi yon nananakaw ni Kuroro at hindi nila na predict si Kurapika, kalahati na lang sana sila ngayon. pero storywise hindi yun nangyari, dalawa lang ang napatay sa kanila, pero malaking loss si Pakunoda sa kanila, dahil isa syang specialist.

tsaka the painpacker, I've already explained it. the skill is totally dependent sa damage na nakuha ni Feitan. but it wouldn't even matter kung mahuli sya ng chain jail (Forced Zetsu state) and it can be said to the other spider members, they are just normal people without nen.

Tsaka hanggang ngayon wala pang nakakaalam sa ability ni Kurapika sa index finger nya, which is probably his strongest ability.

[Ozymandias]

If he really is interested with the other limbs of the spider eh di sana hindi nya tinulungan si Kurapika back in the york new city arc, he could've fight all of them, pero hindi diba? He went as far as disguising himself as a member of the spider, for what? Kuroro.

Also he betrayed them by telling Kurapika their skills, para saan? diba in exchange na makalaban si Kuroro ng solo?

tsaka ayon din sa lovely ghost writer na ninakaw ni Kuroro mamamatay kalahati ng spiders, isipin nyo kung hindi yon nananakaw ni Kuroro at hindi nila na predict si Kurapika, kalahati na lang sana sila ngayon. pero storywise hindi yun nangyari, dalawa lang ang napatay sa kanila, pero malaking loss si Pakunoda sa kanila, dahil isa syang specialist.

tsaka the painpacker, I've already explained it. the skill is totally dependent sa damage na nakuha ni Feitan. but it wouldn't even matter kung mahuli sya ng chain jail (Forced Zetsu state) and it can be said to the other spider members, they are just normal people without nen.

Tsaka hanggang ngayon wala pang nakakaalam sa ability ni Kurapika sa index finger nya, which is probably his strongest ability.

Kasi he wanted only to fight the best, deciding not to fight the rest of ryodan doesn't mean na hindi na sya interested.  Kaya nga gumawa na ng reference ng mga worthy para kay Hisoka si Togashi dito

Try mo ianalyze yung mga nandun na characters para maintindihan mo. Kahit si Leorio na hindi natin alam kung gaano kalakas o kung lalakas ba talaga e nandyan. You claimed din na di pumasa si Kalluto kay Hisoka, pero nandyan sa list of toys ni Hisoka. Nandyan din yung 5 na Zoldyck Family including Kalluto, pero ni minsan di kinalaban ni Hisoka.

Now matching up Kurapika vs Rest Ryodan Members, obviously 1 on 1 kaya nya labanan pero di naman pinakita na kaya talaga ni Kurapika yung Leader nila head on. Kaya original plan talaga ni Kurapika ay paghiwa hiwalayin sila kasi alam nya baka matalo sya pag sabay sabay niya kakalabanin. Kaya nga perfect opponent sa kanya si Uvogin na uhaw makipag laban 1 on 1.
Simply put this it's like Anti-Mage vs Mage na pag 1 on 1 mismatch ang mage dahil mauubos yung Mana nila.

Pero if you match-up Ryodan vs Other Nen users, kayang kaya nila makipag sabayan. Lalo na at mismatch yung ibang chimera ants sa kanila. Simple lang diba?

and it can be said to the other spider members, they are just normal people without nen.

Pag naka chain jail sila against Kurapika wala sila magagawa talaga kasi yung chain nya ay gawa sa Nen while they're just using physical strength lang to resist so alam natin na mismatch ang physical strength vs nen.

Pero you're wrong na they are just normal people without nen. Again please use reference to support your claim, kasi ako naka base from what I read and what I watched sa HxH

Remember Gon's arm wrestling match vs Shizuku? Physical strength alone yun walang halong nen, pero muntik na matalo si Gon.

Reference ng ranking nila for Arm Wrestling:


Now kung naalala mo natalo ni Gon si Nobunaga sa Arm Wrestling ONCE and WITH NEN, pero physical strength alone di nanalo si Gon. Again physical strength won't work alone vs Nen Users. Kaya in a way madaya and lame yung skill ni Kurapika, kasi it only works against Ryodan at dini disable nya yung ability makipaglaban sa kanya on the same ground.


Yan Reference!

[Zurca]

yup, agree din ako hindi ako nagagalingan kay kurapika dahil against ryodan lang gumagana ang abilities niya. so paano na kung i-hire ng ryodan si illumi o si silva may magagawa pa kaya siya? i think one of the most overrated character in hxh is kurapika. if gon/killua (specially with their performance in the chimera ant arc) fight kurapika i think those two can win.

[saix66]

cguru kaya pa din ni kurapika..kagay ng sv ko flexible nmn ung nen abilities sa hxh eh..

[angelmassacre]

Ehh saan pa ba ako kukuha ng pinag-uusapan natin dito. :\ HxH din diba.

Toys: ginagamit lang sila ni Hisoka, to the point na hanggang greed island sila naman ang tinutulungan ni Hisoka para mahanap ang nen remover.He is just using them to his own end para makalaban si Kuroro, tama ka, toys lang. interested in fighting them? duda ako.

Ok, I was wrong in choosing the words "ordinaryong nilalang lang sila pag walang nen" but its still a fact na hindi nila kakayanin si Kurapika kung wala ang nen nila (given that he is able to capture them by his chain jail.) Maniniwala lang akong matatalo nila si Kurapika kung may pang counter sila sa chain jail.

 Feitan's speed? maybe, pero is it enough to dodge the chain?
 Franklin's nen bullets? malabo. kaya nga ni Kurapika ang isang clean hit ng nen enforced punch ni Uvo. madaya kasi kaya nyang iheal sarili nya.
 Shizuku She's not very smart and tends to forget alot of things.
 Machi, Hindi pa napapakita ang extent ng mga nen threads niya.
Shalnark, if he goes autopilot he gets an aura boost, strength and agility, pero I think that is also his weakness,
 Phinx's ripper cyclotron tska expert sa unarmed combat, mas madali syang mahuhuli ng chain given that his skills are for close combat.
About Gon's arm wrestling with Shizuku and
Nobunaga, Gon was still learning the basics of nen in that time. Siguro after Biscuit's tutelage kaya na niya ang dalawa in physical strength. No argument on that.
 
About Kuroro, ewan ko kung sino ang papatay sa kanya sa huli, kung si Kurapika nga ba or si Hisoka (Pag-usapan natin yan pagkatapos ng who will win kurapika vs Spiders.)

[Ozymandias]

You failed to remember the carelessness of Uvogin's fight against Kurapika. He used IN to sneak his chain jail, if Uvo used Gyo then Kurapika might have a slim chance to capture him. Plus Kurapika can't just heal himself forever kung natuloy pa yung damage ni Uvo sa kanya. Now given the fact na alam na ng members ang ability ni Kurapika, then they will be extra careful in fighting him. Chances are that they have other abilities that are useful against him.

You're talking about speed sa members nila in the case of Feitan pero I still think they're all fast enough to evade kurapika's chains.

Going back from the battle against Shadow Beasts (inju) HxH Episode 45 , nung nasa car sila at may surprise attack yung isa sa Inju, nakatakas sila Shalnark, Shizuku, Feitan, at Machi in a second. Si Nobunaga lang di nakatakas kasi unfortunate yung position nya sa car (reference)


Dyan pa lang dinescribe na ni Togashi yung agility level nila.

Franklin's nen bullets? malabo. kaya nga ni Kurapika ang isang clean hit ng nen enforced punch ni Uvo. madaya kasi kaya nyang iheal sarili nya.
 Shizuku She's not very smart and tends to forget alot of things.
 Machi, Hindi pa napapakita ang extent ng mga nen threads niya.
Shalnark, if he goes autopilot he gets an aura boost, strength and agility, pero I think that is also his weakness,
 Phinx's ripper cyclotron tska expert sa unarmed combat, mas madali syang mahuhuli ng chain given that his skills are for close combat.

Shalnark's Ability for the auto-pilot is his best ability yet, bakit magiging weakness yun, di naman lumabas agad yung side effects ng ability niya. Franklin's nen bullets, Kurapika will have a hard time evading it in an open ground, so I really don't your point on comparing it to Uvo's punch? Punch and bullet aren't the same...

Shizuku won't keep up against Kurapika kasi makakalimutin siya at she's not very smart??? Again please kung nagbasa ka ng manga or atleast napanood mo recent episodes, madedescribe ng most viewers na she's a quick thinker and a good tactician. Nakalusot sya agad dun Spiderweb ng certain spider dude chimera ant, at tinanggal nya yung damit nya to escape it. Now atleast she can sustain a fight against Kurapika dahil pareho silang tactician.


Pero it only describes how poor you make a scenario here, angelmassacre. Not very interesting so far.

You just imagined how things will go smooth in favor of Kurapika which is bias and you overlooked a lot of things out there.
 
Kung baga Pacquiao vs Marquez to, yung mga fans ni Pacman naimagine na nila kung paano ma KO ni Pacman si Marquez, pero they failed to anticipate Marquez' counter-punch na instead nag pa KO kay Pacquiao.

[saix66]

ordinaryong tao lng cla kung wla clang nen abilities?? kung mglalaban c kurapika o alin mn myembro ng spiders without using any nen ..i would still go for the spiders..considering n hnd din gagamit c kurapika ng nen.

[moimoi]

after ng greed island nasundan pa po ba ito? penge naman ng link to download those...

salamay in advance