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Who is your Presidential bet for 2016?

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Offline VigilanteSpy

on: June 04, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
For me, we need a leader who has balls, someone with political will
to implement laws with authority, someone who has an iron hand
to discipline Filipinos, specially the bad elements. Duterte for 2016
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Who is your Presidential bet for 2016?
« on: June 04, 2015, 01:31:56 PM »

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Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 03:08:29 AM
Personally, wala pa sa ngayon. Wait and see mode pa ako but I do agree with you that we need someone with an iron will. Hindi pa ako convinced kay Duterte, I would like to hear kung ano ang plataporma nya if he runs. I've heard good things about Davao and that's a great sign but I'm still on the fence. Running a whole country is a different ball game, and I'd like to know his plans.

Meron mga potential candidate na automatic NO na kaagad sa isip ko, but I'm giving Duterte and a few others the benefit of the doubt. I'm just curious to hear what's their plans if they win.

Hindi kagaya nung isang napapanood ko na potential na tatakbo. Hindi pwedeng ang isasagot eh itutuloy ko ang magandang na simulan, that's baloney. Make your case to the people hindi yang ganyan na parang kumbaga eh ang sinasabi eh "alam nyo na yon" pag ako nanalo. That's not good enough.

Maaring may maganda pero in this administration I saw a lot of bullies sa mga maliliit. Anjan ang bully at walang pakungdangang BIR, ang incompetent na akala mo kung sino makapag utos na LTO, MRT, SAF 44 and Purisima fiasco etc. I could go on and on, na para ang maging slogan mo ay "itutuloy ang magandang na simulan" eh it's an insult to anyone with a working brain and who takes this county's future seriously.

I would prefer if all candidates would state their case, tell us what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, and hopefully they use their ample time to do so.
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Offline jamesbond

Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 06:14:38 PM
 :-\ wala pa sa ngayon... medyo maaga pa at wala pa akong nakikita na uubra... isa ako sa mga silent majority na watch mode lang muna....


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Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
pati na rin ako
wala pa ang aga pa kasi
para mag choose
too early ...... just too early pa


Offline notnel11

Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 05:30:06 AM
Kung tatakbo si Mayor Duterte, malamang sya iboto ko. Kung di naman at tumakbo si Sen. Poe, eh baka sya iboto ko.

Wala e, no choice. Daming TRAPO.
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Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Awaiting for a presidential debate and hear their comments regarding these issues, among others:

1. Political dynasty
2. Corruption
3. West Phil. Sea dispute
4. Contractualization
5. Sustaining economy
6. Separation of church and state
7. future of BBL
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Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 01:06:02 PM
Too early to tell but definitely, out na sa akin si Binay at Roxas.


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Offline Lord Nok Von Hauten

Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 04:13:02 PM
Makisali na rin...

Sa ngayun wala pa rin akong napipili... out na rin sa akin si Binay at Roxas... Sana meron tumakbo na inuuna talaga ang bansa/bayan at hindi ang bulsa nila...

Madali akong lapitan pero mahirap hanapin...


Offline naruto789544

Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 11:14:46 PM
just like the others, i am still awaiting the decisions and agenda of several presidential wannabees... but i want someone who is strong willed and has a clean conviction for the country...


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Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
IMO, the upcoming elections will surely highlight the utilization of traditional election schemes e.g.:

a. Campaign Machinery which includes:
1. Best Political Operators (tacticians, strategists, technicians)
2. Campaign PR and Media Messaging
3. Campaign Funds
4. Grassroots Operations and Networks
5. GOTV (Get out the votes) Dynamics

Not to mention that local political parties have employed Survey Firms to help them in their messaging schemes. If one is too attentive with scheme of things, surveys are being used by all potential candidates to deliver a strong and credible posture of themselves in the public using all forms of media.

But I still need to see a candidate who can really exploit the power of "Big Data" in a national elections right in our country. Whoever is the first to use this technology for sure will have an advantage.

Within the Philippine Presidential Race there's really no clear cut difference within the candidates even if they claim they're not "pro-administration", "pro-daang matuwid" or "opposition".

Liberal Party's Presidential Curse - Ever since Diosdado Macapagal, this political party has been on a tail spin, if not for its party icons with the likes Jovito Salonga, Gerry Roxas, Benigno Aquino Jr. this party could have been gone to obscurity.
It only got lucky in 2010, after Mar Roxas became the sacrificial lamb and Noynoy Aquino manages to win the presidency after the death of his mother Corazon Aquino. (Speaking of "Cory magic")

Now how would this party fare after a post-Aquino era is over. Good thing Paul Bograd is in town. An american political strategist hired by the administration to boost Roxas chances. I see his trademark hitting its mark lately.

The administration has brilliantly employed its tactics quite well to disrupt the Vice Presidents Binay's surge for the last 3-4 months. Orchestrating the "divide the stream" plan. We're seeing Grace Poe, Chiz Escudero, Rod Duterte and even bringing in Erap Estrada into the Presidential race.

Danding Cojuangco's Nationalist People's Coalition will definitely be the key here for the administration whether it will act as a campaign financier just like what it did for Noynoy or will serve as a "nuissance party" to help catapult Mar Roxas who is slowly making his way up is Bograd's strategic template.

Erap Estrada's case is also worth suspecting, until now the former President now Manila mayor has not fully committed himself to his friend Vice President Jejomar Binay after having a falling out regarding the political demise of the former's son Jinggoy Estrada because of the pork barrel scam. The mayor is seem to have been co-opted or politically blackmailed since his son is behind bars.

While on the other hand, a strong voice coming from the south seems to echo the political aspirations of its owner - Rod Duterte, many of us seems to admire the temerity, boldness and novelty of this local official. But we should also check on his political skill set. The man is intelligently being advised in withholding to the public his aspirations. The guy has learned from the vice president's experience of throwing his hat early in the ring lest he be demolished.

Contrary to survey results last year, Vice President Binay is no longer at the top, thanks to unwavering mudslinging during senate hearings, character assassinations and picturing the Binay as one of the long lost leaders of the AXIS Powers. But speaking of political capital, the Vice President has actually invested and been well-entrenched since his 2010 Vice Presidential run. His "sister city" blueprint has earned him support from where the votes are - The LGU grassroots. No wonder Mar Roxas was place in DILG in 2012 to counter the Binay wildfire. I can't blame him if there's indeed a confirmation of an alliance between his former enemies in GMA's LAKAS-CMD, for politics is always all about addition and multiplication even if there's a realization that birds of the same feathers robbed together. UNA which is on the defensive lately is losing the messaging battle. It needs to get seasoned political operators and more spokesperson to speak on Vice President's Presidential agenda. Toby Tiangco will do for now, but he'll be no matched against Noynoy's media politburo of Coloma, Valte, Lacierda, Cong. Quimbo, Cong. Evardone, Cong. Erice and Manolo Quezon combined. Not to mention former PNOy's messaging craftsman Ricky Carandang working as a sidekick to Paul Bograd. UNA would need to get out the administration's pork-barrel, corruption and political dynasty traps if it needs to place the vice president as the head of Malacanan by 2016. Probably mission impossible. 

Mar Roxas political curse is irreversable. Pity this man for sacrificing his ambition for a full term only to be on the same quagmire for his political party's blunders. Luckily the guy has all the government resources at his disposal even hiring the an American political consultant to chart his presidential plans. It seems the investment has paid off for now.

Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos - although not as brilliant as his dad, but the "dark horse" has steadily and successfully rode on the issue of the BBL to his advantage. It's just a matter of time perhaps July or August whether or not his campaign will totally take shape.

The rest like Mirriam Defensor Santiago, Gibo Teodoro, Manuel V. Pangilinan, Alan Peter Cayetano and Antonio Trillanes will just have spice our discussions occasionally.

I will expect a sophisticated media and grassroots war among adversaries. Perhaps a a bitter rumble similar with the 2004 elections. You have a 4-5 corner fight in which two to three players can be dummy ploys that will work for the administration's advantage. Watch out for Grace Poe and Erap being co-opted to catapult Mar's ambitions. As pundits would say, the more players the better will it be for the administration. Now it just the matter of how the administration will translate it into real votes for their advantage.

Jojo, Mar,Bongbong, Grace, and Erap is how will I put it by 2016. The last two would be my patsies.  ;)

 
« Last Edit: June 22, 2015, 04:48:23 PM by yummyyana23 »


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Reply #10 on: July 03, 2015, 02:25:59 AM
For me, we need a leader who has balls, someone with political will
to implement laws with authority, someone who has an iron hand
to discipline Filipinos, specially the bad elements. Duterte for 2016

ahehehe - pano po ser kung babae ang kandidato  :think:

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Too early to tell but definitely, out na sa akin si Binay at Roxas.

yep - si binay ibibigay tayo nyan sa mga intsik. tingin ko walang alam sa foreign policy itong si kuranognog eh.
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Offline jcuragon81

Reply #11 on: July 03, 2015, 03:34:29 AM
Bago tayo magusap kung sino ang gusto natin maging pangulo, dapat mangako muna tayo na boboto tayo. ang dami ko kakilala puro reklamo sa gobyerno sa mga palpak, sa mga kurakot, sa mga bully at iba pa, pero kapag halalan na hindi naman bumoboto!!! anak ng tinapa! puro satsat eh hindi naman pala sya bumoto. If you love your country and you have a working brain for the good of the people, but you are not voting, its almost the same as helping them corrupt officials win. Hindi ka nga bumoboto pinapabayaan mo naman na manalo ang mga corrupt by letting the people who are selling them votes and those who are totally crooke and self serving people to overpower the good but few ones.

I think there is no perfect President, vice prez, senator, congressman etc, in Philippine settings, all of them have their own strenght, weaknesses and biases and faults. I think we have to content ourselves with the available winnable candidates who is the lesser evil one. You ask for Duterte pero di naman mananalo if ilaban kay Binay and maybe you will complain later that he is becoming a tyrant or a martial law man coz Im sure he will impose his will  at all cost to get things done. You got Grace people will say inexperienced yet clean but hopefully not weak willed. You got Mar, maybe clean yet a little trapo. You got Jojo and you already know how trapo and corrupt he is.

What we have to do is to chose one who is the winnable one who is not or lesser evil and we think is leaning more to the people's interest. Dapat concentrated tayo sa isa lang. Im not advocating for any candidate, but I hope we rally behind a person who is winnable and lesser evil than Binay as he is the benchmark now. Dont ask for a candidate who is the ideal guy to solve our problem but will not win. Kapag tayo ay watak watak malamang malaki tsansa na manalo si Jojo, wag naman po Panginoon! hehehehe

Tandaan kapag di ka boboto sa darating na halalan, wag kang magreklamo kapag ang nanalo eh magnanakaw at palpak na kagaya mo, kasi pinabayaan mo lang na manalo ang masama laban sa mabuti. Padamihan po ang laban sa halalan! Bow hehehehe


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Reply #12 on: July 03, 2015, 07:47:51 PM
ako rin wala pa rin akong mapili kung sino ang iboboto ko .. tama si @jcuragon81 walang perpektong opisyal ng gobyerno, mula SK hanggang pangulo meron at meron mga corrupt talaga .. ang tanong lang e kung nagagampanan ba nila ng maayos yung mga trabaho nila


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Reply #13 on: August 20, 2015, 07:19:53 PM
Kay Binay ako... lahat tayo may green card, parang us citizen lang... baka maging maganda ang takbo ng mga librang serbisyo sa bayan tulad sa medical..
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