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Title: extra-judicial killing
Post by: salvediaz on August 01, 2016, 11:13:57 PM
makatwiran ba ang pagpatay ng mga pulis sa mga drug user kahit na sila ay biktima at hindi pusher?
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: jarguerrero39 on August 02, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
Hindi sir! Kaya nga meron tayong due process. Nung bibitayin si Mary Jane Veloso sa Indonesia dahil sa drug trafficking, sumigaw tayo ng wag muna, hintayin ang due process. My point is, the sanctity of life of Mary Jane is the same as mine, yours and other drug addict/ pushers out there.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: ka rachi on August 02, 2016, 03:41:11 PM
may mga tinatawag tayong casualties of war. whether you like it or not sa bawat gera ay may kailangan maisakripisyo.

para sa akin to hell with the human rights, alam mong me pusher at mga adict s paligid mo bakit kailangan mo makihalubilo sa kanila.

the best part is lumayo ka para di ka madamay.

mas mainam na mamatay ang mga pushers dahil buhay ng ibang tao ang sinisira nila.

Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: Heathcliff on August 02, 2016, 10:19:09 PM


The killings began long before President Duterte gained the presidential office...and I dont think those reported number of killings were correct..there were incidents of vigilante style killings that were not reported at all...hardly anyone believes the excuses that the victims were all armed and that they've shot at the officers first. ...but on the other hand it could be that these victims were killed by the same druglords that they were working for...they were simply eliminated to avoid persecution from the present government...magkakabukingan din lang e di unahin ng patayin ang sariling assets, convenient enough hindi ba?

which is which? paano kung iexploit ng mga real vigilantes at estremistang radikal na grupo yang mga insidenteng yan?

...maraming natutuwa pero sa kabilang banda naman e sarili nating batas ang nawawalan ng saysay and i think in the long run...this example of a creeping normality of extra judicial killings will  definitely leave a negative reflection in the present administration of our government.




Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: naruto789544 on August 02, 2016, 11:28:52 PM
i agree with the eradication of drugs and the likes... it is a very big problem for the country now... but i also have some reservations regarding the manner it is being made... we are a country of laws, and bypassing those laws would render our state laws useless... i hope that the rules of engagement in this campaign be studied more to minimize those so called collateral damages... what if this happens to our love ones??? then i think we would be looking at the other side now...
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: whinterwol on August 07, 2016, 09:05:14 PM
Gusto ko yung pamamalakad ni Duterte. But to answer your question, Of course hindi. Kasi users sila, they need help. They need to be rehabilitated.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: trushers on August 23, 2016, 01:16:47 AM
IMHO, mabuti pa ang pusher na napatay ang senado pa ang nag imbestiga. samantalang yung ordinaryong tao na innosente ay parang walang investigation na nangyayari. labeled as unsolved lang
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: balde on August 29, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
makatwiran ba ang pagpatay ng mga pulis sa mga drug user kahit na sila ay biktima at hindi pusher?

If we have to base our answers from the existing laws in the Philippines, the straight answer to your question is NO.

The word extra-judicial killing in the Philippine laws is also defined as crime.

If you personally asks me if I support extra-judicial killing, the answer is "it depends". I will park my keyboard until a follow up question is raised.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: hector on August 30, 2016, 02:03:27 AM
extra judicial killing is not in accordance with law....I support anti illegal drugs campaign but I do not support EJK.... I support legitimate police operation against notorious drug dealers and it should be done by the books.....
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: Jonel on September 01, 2016, 01:11:44 AM
Hindi sir! Kaya nga meron tayong due process. Nung bibitayin si Mary Jane Veloso sa Indonesia dahil sa drug trafficking, sumigaw tayo ng wag muna, hintayin ang due process. My point is, the sanctity of life of Mary Jane is the same as mine, yours and other drug addict/ pushers out there.

Tama hindi dapat basta basta patay na lang dahil mag create lang yan ng culture of violence sa ating mga lungson at mahirap na mag set ng precedent basta pagbintangan ka lang patayin ka tapos sabihin adik o puser?

Wala ako awa sa Kriminal pro death penalty ako sa mga Holdaper at rapist pero dapat wag sila sa Kalye itapon. sa Cementeryo dapat.

Kasi kahit pa talagang lahat ng mga na patay ng summary execution eh mga walang hiyang kriminal hindi pa din maganda na nakikita ng kabataan at ng mamamayan natin yung ganoong brutalidad at isa pa diba tinatapon na lang nila yung duguang bangkay sa Kalye? so may violation sila littering ang ginagawa nila eh kung yung harapan kaya ng bahay nila tambakan ng mga patay rapist at pusher eh diba ma babadtrip din sila.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: wolverine on September 01, 2016, 05:58:54 AM
 ??? ???For me,sang ayon ako dyan sa extra judicial killing....at simple lang ang sagot ko...pinagbigyan na silang sumuko,remember nagbahay bahay pa nga ang mga pulis para lang mapasuko sila or para magbago sila,kaso hinintay pa nila na mapatay sila...sino ngayon may kasalanan?????
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: athrunz on September 12, 2016, 06:29:49 PM
meron pinatay samin ngayon lang pinasok sa bahay 17 years old, pero ang hinahunting talaga dito eh yung may ari ng bahay, napagkamalan niratrat 12 na bala. nangungupahan lang yung teenager natutulog tapos pinasok sa bahay at pinatay. pero thats what you call sabi nga sa past comment isang casualty of war, pero tingin nyo ba si digong ang nagpadala nun? o yung mga bossing nila sa drug trade?
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: therasmus on September 13, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
In the first place kase alam mo nang mali, gagawin mo pa.
I know buhay yan, pero binigyan ka rin naman ng freedom para makapag-isip at umunawa kung ano ang tama at mali. Maraming mahihirap ang nabubuhay parin sa tamang paraan. Hindi rason ang pagiging mahirap para maging user at pusher ka.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: remediate on September 16, 2016, 02:36:59 AM
i support the govt's campaign against drugs pero sana implement pa rin ang due process dahil baka marami ding inosenteng tao ang madamay.

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Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: lakandula on September 16, 2016, 03:08:17 AM
ayos lang sa akin yan. at ng mabawas bawasan ang salot sa lipunan. isa pa kahit naman pulis na involve sa drugs, tinitira din di ba
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: Jonel on September 18, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
Dalikado ang ejk nag kakaroon ng culture na patayan na lang bintangan ka lang na criminal patay ka na lalo na kung ang gobyerno aabusuhin ito.

Hindi ito dapat suportahan paurong na landas ito.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: el pedio on September 28, 2016, 12:21:56 AM
kasi sir parang pinabibintangan nyo po namgapulis ang pumapatay.. ang pulis ay ayaw maunahan, once ukaw inapprehend at bumunot ka ng armas, then you must be tired of living

pero karamihang namamatay yata sir ay mga sangkot sa droga na pinapatay ng mga kasamahan para di na makakanta. dead man tells no tale. tingnan nyo po ang mag asawang odicta sa iloilo, pulis po ba ang pumatay?

maraming nahuhuli ang mga otoridad na mga vigilante groups karamihan ay riding in tandem sila ay inutusan ng mga boss nila para likidahin ang kanilang mga dating kasamahan.

CHR? hindi po iyan kalaban ng pamahalaan, sila po ay kakampi ng mga kriminal.. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: therasmus on October 08, 2016, 01:25:20 PM
Due process was served already.. Yung mga sumukong 600k, yun na yung chance na binigay.
Now yung mga matitigas at palihim parin na nakikipagtransakyon ng droga. Yan yung hinuhunt down ng mga Pulis natin. Sa tingin mo dapat pang bigyan ng due process? Sa palagay mo ba papahuli pa yan ng buhay? Eh sa una pa nga lang di na sila sumuko eh. Akala siguro nila ganun parin ang kalakaran ng mga kapulisan at ordinansa about sa kontra-droga.

There are still many users/pushers out there, they still have the chance na sumurender. Wag nyong sabihing walang due process. Kase yung mga drug lords nga hindi pa patay eh, knowing sila mismo ang naging culprit ng problemang ito.
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: kenalo on October 09, 2016, 04:26:47 PM
Wala naman talagang EJK na nangyayari. Yung "Kill List" na pinalabas ng Inquirrer comprising of Legit Police Ops at Deaths Under Investigation. Yung mga DUI iniimbestigahan yan, at may mga na apprehend na na suspects. Iilan dun mga tainted policemen, and they were already relieved from their posts, with cases already in motion. Ngayon, asan ang EJK dyan?
Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: Jonel on October 10, 2016, 02:30:14 AM
Matagal ng isyu yang EJK nayan panahon pa ni Gloria Aroyo pero wala namang napaparusahan diyan.

Title: Re: extra-judicial killing
Post by: kuneho on July 03, 2018, 12:44:17 PM
Sa sobrang dami na ng kriminal sa bansa at talagang mga halang ang bituka, dagdagan pa ng pag sikip ng mga kulungan sang ayun ako sa extra judicial killing para hindi na mapamarisan.
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