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http://youtu.be/b2OcKQ_mbiQ
When an Italian video journalist set out to see how young boys would react to being asked to hit a girl, he discovered something awe-inspiring.
Luca Lavarone, who works for “Fanpage,” conducted the social experiment with boys ranging from 6 to 11 years old in Italy. After having the boys introduce themselves, Lavarone brings in a young girl named Martina. He asked the boys to say what they like about her, and they respond with a list of lovely compliments.
Then Lavarone asked the boys to caress Martina. That task was completed without incident, if with a certain amount of shyness. He then asked them to make a funny face at her. They did so, with gusto.
But when the boys were asked to slap Martina, their reactions took a different turn. A flat-out refusal. When pressed for the reason that they wouldn’t slap her, the impressive youngsters responded with explanations that would make any parent or human being proud. “Because you’re not supposed to hit girls,” “I don’t want to hurt her,” “Because I’m against violence.” One even added, “As the saying goes, ‘Girls shouldn’t be hit, not even with a flower.”
~ credits to the source
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Let me ask you Schy, how did this video make you feel? Yeah, I thought so, Isn't it a bit sixist?
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Hello Sir Caligula...
sixist ba? Hmnn... Some will say yes.. And others may not agree.. But however... the concept of the video is to give an emphasis to the welfare of women , violence, towards women in general be it, physical or verbal... Must not be tolerated by anyone...it is a grave violation of human rights...and it's irreversible impact and effect ranges not only from an immediate visible results of abuse but it can create a long term mental, emotional and sixual damage... And unfortunately, some cases results to death of the poor victims...
The whole concept of the video was good, the little boys were too nice.. Yeah, i'd say... It kinda gave us the feeling of being 'sweetly pampered' ... I guess a bit too much... Sabagay cute naman dahil bagay sa mga kids yunh theme
Ng video... But i
Must say nde siguro ganun kaganda kung grown ups ang cast...
Hmnn... Wag lang sana lumaki ang ulo ng mga babae... On equal footing na rin naman ngayon babae man or lalaki... I can say.,, kung meron emotionally, sixually and physically abused na babae... Marami din naman abused na lalaki...
Maaring superior kayo samen because of your physical strength... But women now a days are shrewed enough to know where to hurt you big time... Talk about being subtle in our 'sharky predator ways' hehehe...
Quits lang... Actually madalas e mas cruel pa nga kami sa inyo.. Yun lang... Sabi ng human rights...violence against women MUST not be tolerated.
.... But then, my observant and strong alter ego says... Depende sa klase ng babae and naturally... Depende sa sitwasyon.
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i believe it is inhumane for a man to hit a woman. it is downright disrespectful and outrageous.
no man, in his right mind of thinking, would even try to do such animal act.
thank God my parents never raised me to be such.
those little kids are great and i think would grow to be such wonderful persons they are ought to be.
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girls should be slap......
only by a hard dick......
:peace: :peace: :peace:
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Chazer,
Very nice observation Sir.. On general point of view, at kahit naman saang sitwasyon we women are still considered as the weaker gender...;) it's really very cruel para patulan kaming babae and to abuse us physically...
Sir Dimmu,
On rephrasing your thoughts, i would rather have it you say it like this...:
' women must be taken and dealt with not with force, but with the gentle fierceness of love and passion combined..'
... Oh well, especially in bed. That is if i may add...
;)
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this is one video that would somehow let ladies know that they too need to treat men with respect, so as to be respected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JNELrBK2M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JNELrBK2M)
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this is one video that would somehow let ladies know that they too need to treat men with respect, so as to be respected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JNELrBK2M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JNELrBK2M)
D'Frost,
Fair enough, I understand your viewpoint. But.. grabeee naman yang sample video mo. Wala bang less violent dyan? ;)
Admittedly may mga kabaro kaming ganyan and I can comprehend kung nawawala sa kontrol ang mga reaction ng mga lalaki. ..sobrang magsalita at sasabayan pa ba ng kamay? Who would say na wala kang right to defend yourself?
But still. .sana wag kalimutan na babae pa ren yan. ..katulad at kawangis ng Ina mo kung bakit ka nailuwal dito sa mundo. .
May mawawala ba sa pagkalalaki, nyo kung iiwas na lang kayo at magpapalipas ng galit?
Kapag ba sinaktan mo sya pabalik, sinampal, sinipa at pinatikim ng tigas ng kamao mo. ..will it make you feel any better and superior?
Respect begets respect..and violence is not the proper way of getting the respect you want.. maaaring sa bugso ng damdamin. .pero hindi dapat maging habitual. .
Ikaw kaya maging babae tas ibully ka ng ganyan. I wonder ano gagawin mo. ..[color] >:D >:D >:D
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D'Frost,
Fair enough, I understand your viewpoint. But.. grabeee naman yang sample video mo. Wala bang less violent dyan? ;)
Admittedly may mga kabaro kaming ganyan and I can comprehend kung nawawala sa kontrol ang mga reaction ng mga lalaki. ..sobrang magsalita at sasabayan pa ba ng kamay? Who would say na wala kang right to defend yourself?
But still. .sana wag kalimutan na babae pa ren yan. ..katulad at kawangis ng Ina mo kung bakit ka nailuwal dito sa mundo. .
May mawawala ba sa pagkalalaki, nyo kung iiwas na lang kayo at magpapalipas ng galit?
Kapag ba sinaktan mo sya pabalik, sinampal, sinipa at pinatikim ng tigas ng kamao mo. ..will it make you feel any better and superior?
Respect begets respect..and violence is not the proper way of getting the respect you want.. maaaring sa bugso ng damdamin. .pero hindi dapat maging habitual. .
Ikaw kaya maging babae tas ibully ka ng ganyan. I wonder ano gagawin mo. ..[color] >:D >:D >:D
indeed "respect begets respect". so, if yo don't show respect, you won't get respected as well. no, it won't make me feel any better or superior if i hit the woman back. i just want to show her that you shouldn't be doing that to anyone. tao din kame. just because babae ka, you can get away with that excuse for hitting someone? that's unfair to guys, who, as you see in the videos, tried patiently to keep their calm. pero sobra eh. so shit happened. everyone, both male and female, should know their limits.
kung ung lalake ang unang nanakit ng babae, ayun, pwede nating sabihin gago sya. pero kung nag retaliate sya dahil sumobra na si babae, eh, sorry sya. she deserved it.
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i may say that it really is a case to case basis.. but if you can tolerate the behavior of a lady, then i think it would be better... if you can turn your back on her and leave, then it is best... but if she still berates you or the likes even if you are already doing everything and leaving then it is to your judgement on what is best...
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That's not what you call respect, it's getting even.
And that gruesome act just prove how a man can stoop that low and degrade himself with utter stupidity.
You take any woman by force and violence you only give her reasons to be more nasty. But you give her silence and ignore her completely. . .you are showing her that you are far more superior than her uncontrolled behaviour and that she's unworthy of any attention.
You need not slap a woman nor humiliate her with violence to prove that she is wrong. Any man with the right breeding and principle will simply turn his back and just walk away.
You don't have to strike her back. . You don't have to get even. . . a real man is far more better than behaving like a crazed woman, cursing and crashing her with your violence.
Shit happens when a man lose control and forget that he has two heads and both can be controlled if you will it so.
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Ang babae hindi sinasaktan, minamahal... Hehehe, parang Robin lang. Pero kapag sumusobra na aba'y... dapat mo ng talikuran. Huwag mong sabayan ang init ng ulo niya, kase kawawa naman. I wonder why the Holy Scriptures give importance and emphasis about the welfare of women. Love her, feed her, take her to your home etc. especially sa mga widows. Dahil pala ang babae ay weaker compared to lalake. Maging ang lahat ng gobyerno (maybe) sa buong mundo ay may mga batas para sa welfare ng women(and children) kase nga mas mahihina sila pagdating sa physical at maging sa emosyonal na katayuan. Kaya nga isinali ang children dun para mabigyan diin ang tungkol sa kahinaan. Mayroon ding tinatawag na battered- wife pero walang battered husband. Ah, ewan basta ganun.
On the otherhand, mayroon din namang sinabi sa scripture na para sa welfare ng lalake, RESPECT him. Kailangan kase naming mga (tunay) na lalake ang respeto mula sa mga babae. Minsan ang babae dahil sa sobrang pagkabungangera naipapahiya na pala ang isang lalake (partner o asawa niya) at iyon ang ayaw na ayaw naming mga lalake. Huwag na huwag mong hihiyain ang lalake lalo sa harap ng barkada dahil magkakalintikan talaga
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That's not what you call respect, it's getting even.
And that gruesome act just prove how a man can stoop that low and degrade himself with utter stupidity.
You take any woman by force and violence you only give her reasons to be more nasty. But you give her silence and ignore her completely. . .you are showing her that you are far more superior than her uncontrolled behaviour and that she's unworthy of any attention.
You need not slap a woman nor humiliate her with violence to prove that she is wrong. Any man with the right breeding and principle will simply turn his back and just walk away.
You don't have to strike her back. . You don't have to get even. . . a real man is far more better than behaving like a crazed woman, cursing and crashing her with your violence.
Shit happens when a man lose control and forget that he has two heads and both can be controlled if you will it so.
yes, the ones in the video were a bit too much. but what i am trying to say is to let a woman (like the ones in the video) be in her place. strike some sense into her. pwede sigurong pitikin ang kamay, or tenga. just to let her know na sumosobra ka na talaga. of course you only do that pag talagang sumobra na. as in you already walked away (mga isang kilometro) at hinahabol ka pa rin ng dada. hahaha!
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Ganun talaga D'Frost parang AK 47 rifle lang na may rapid firing at double action na Bala.
~~~tawa ka ngayon dyan, Tseh! Lolz. . :brucelee1:
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As a kid, our parents taught us that hitting a girl is unacceptable in this society. Because girls must be loved, must be cared and must be understood..
But when i grown up, i noticed that this notion is just a plain stupidity - stupidity created by our stupid society.
This society is creating a wrong notion that violence against men is ok and violence against women is punishable by law..
Violence in any form must not be tolerated and must be stop.
Mas mabuti pa nga ang maga hayop, meron silang mga batas na nagpoprotekta sa kanila laban sa pang aabuso.. Pero ang mga lalaki eh wala. Ganun na ba kababa ang tingin ng society sa mga kalalakihan?
Is tolerance applied only for men? Men are human as well. They also deserves love and respect.
If a women deserve to be love, then a man also.. If a man deserve to be hit, then a woman also.. People must be accountable for their action whatever their genders are.
In this world we must be fair.
And before I forgot, women around the world are fighting for gender equality. That both men and women should receive equal treatment, and should not be discriminated against based on gender.
And not hitting back against your abusive gf/wife is not a good example of gender equality..
gender equality says you must fight back.............. because basically you have the same basic rights..
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I must say that when it comes to gender equality... there is still so.much to be considered.
. ..we not only talk about physical violence here but emotional and psychological as well. Gender Equality? Much as I wanted to believe on the ideals of it's campaign, It doesn't exist.
Why?
Most scenarios tackle only the most obvious problem: Physical Abuse. And the more we delve deeper into the problem, different scenarios start to surface.
Different issues, different cultures beliefs and principles. But I agree, there are cases reported, that Men do experience some kind of unequal treatment. Probably not on physical level but psychological and emotional too...
But the thing is, this gender problem has been kept far too long by our own shroud of cultural silence. Thus resulting to.more complex issues. The socio-cultural,and socio-economic aspects of humanity has been hindered because of this gender inequality.
If women were allowed to vote hundred years earlier. .. baka mas maraming naging sensible na leaders ang mga bansa at maaaring naiwasan ang world wars? ...Palagay lang naman yan. I'm sure maraming tataas ang kilay.
If women were allowed to be educated na tulad ng mga kalalakihan noon, and we were granted access to work nde kaya mas maunlad ang economy ng mundo?
And if we're granted free will to choose whom to love and to marry. ..baka nabawasan ang mga babaing weakling, na tila baga anino lang sa lipunan.
Mga babaing tila maskara ang mukha dahil sa asido, six slave sa mismong tahanan nya. Walang bibig para umaray at magreklamo. Ilang kababayan ba natin narerape sa middle east?
Cultural ignorance.nangingibabaw ang ego ng pagiging lalaki. Mga babaing mananatiling tila kasangkapan lang .isang pagaari ang turing.
Hindi babae, hindi kauri at ka pantay.
No wonder sa mga ganun klaseng lugar mas mataas ang antas ng kahirapan. Sagad sa takot at tahimik na pag titiis. At ang mga kalalakihan mananatiling mataas, malakas at higit sa lahat. Walang kwenta at ignorante
Bakit?
Anong klaseng lalaki ba ang sisibol mula sa sinapupunan ng isang lipunan kung inuluwal ka mula sa mga babaing binabasu basura lang ng mag kalalakihan?
... disgusting diba?
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We cannot change the past but the future is firmly in our hands...
Yousafzai Malala knows the difference between a coward and a hero. A coward laments only the past whereas a person who can change the world is a true hero.
Yousafzai anyway is a young muslim kid who is living under the rule of the Taliban in Pakistan. And Taliban banned muslim girls from attending school under its control. And ultra conservative Muslim groups like this are notoriuos for human rights especially to women..
But despite of this and the failed assassination attempt by the Taliban, Malalai continue her advocacy about human rights and education..
Think for yourself...
Do you want to be a coward?
Or do you want to be a hero?
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'Yourself"
Is not the proper term here.
It's US. The campaign for Gender Equality is not only a female issue but male as well.
Trying to explain the past isn't at All an act of lamentation. Stating facts and citing examples of obvious effects and results are essential to understand the cause and to find an effective solution.
Yang example mo... is one proof that women from Muslim countries are trying to advocate the campaign for gender equality. I believe that we must not stop addressing this issue to the world...but rather, continue to raise our voices and laments to eventually achieve what is needed to be achieved.
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Gender equality comes from within our selves. If we like to change the world, it must begin with ourselves.
We already move forward because basically, we already find an effective solution, Gender Equality.
Have you ever notice that in some Muslim country like Kurdistan, halos magkapareho na ang karapatan ng mga lalaki sa babae. Even Al Qaeda itself, may mga operative na din silang mga babae.. Boko Haram recently used women as their suicide bombers.. In NBA, MMA and other sports na kontrolado ng mga lalaki, unti unti napepenetrate na rin ng mga babae..
Gender equality is coming into reality little by little.. But along it's way may mga issue pa rin na di nabibigyan ng pansin katulad nga ng violence against men pero sa tingin ko paglipas ng panahon mapapansin din yan..
Anyway, you cannot change this world overnight. You need to take time..
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Hello Sir Dimmu!
Naker... Baket naman pang suicide bomber ?! Haha... ( nalunok ko tuloy ng wala sa oras ang ice cube)
Napapanood ko nga yang MMA ... And its quite entertaining. True enough there's still a lot to be done para ma achieve yang Gender Equality. And although there are still a lot of unvoiced out chronicles about this issue, its a relief to know that a lot of people are doing their best to help those poor women.
I agree that in order to change and achieve something it must commence within each of us. But first each person must struggle to unveil their sufferrings and break out their silence. How could the whole world know about their grievances if they will remain burried in their silence?
This struggle needs personal awareness and collective support. All victims must come out and must denounce it firmly. All those concerned to extend their help need not focus only on physical abuse but must fully understand the effects of abuse as well It goes deep. But it can be healed.
Its been many decades now that people around the world expressed their willingness to support this campaign.but if people will continue to be blinded with their own cultural practices and mindset....it"ll probably take another generation or succeeding ones to eventually put an end to this. Hopefully.
Anyway thanks for all your positive comments Sir... Highly apperciated po yan.
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I just want to emphasize lang na even in terrorist attack who are done by ultra conservative groups like boko haram, al qaeda eh narerealize na rin nila ang kahalagahan ng mga babae..
Di ba mostly sa mga Muslim eh mga lalaki lang talaga ang aktibo at ang mga babae eh sa bahay lang.. Pero sa ngayon unti unti na itong nag iiba..
Malay mo sa susunod eh babae na ang papalit kay baghdadi ng islamic state..
hehehehe..
Pero bagamat nga marami ng aware sa role ng babae sa society, meron pa ring ibang lugar sa mundo na mababa ang tingin sa mga babae at ito dapat ang pagtuunan ng pansin ng gobyerno nila.
Hello Sir Dimmu!
Naker... Baket naman pang suicide bomber ?! Haha... ( nalunok ko tuloy ng wala sa oras ang ice cube)
Napapanood ko nga yang MMA ... And its quite entertaining. True enough there's still a lot to be done para ma achieve yang Gender Equality. And although there are still a lot of unvoiced out chronicles about this issue, its a relief to know that a lot of people are doing their best to help those poor women.
I agree that in order to change and achieve something it must commence within each of us. But first each person must struggle to unveil their sufferrings and break out their silence. How could the whole world know about their grievances if they will remain burried in their silence?
This struggle needs personal awareness and collective support. All victims must come out and must denounce it firmly. All those concerned to extend their help need not focus only on physical abuse but must fully understand the effects of abuse as well It goes deep. But it can be healed.
Its been many decades now that people around the world expressed their willingness to support this campaign.but if people will continue to be blinded with their own cultural practices and mindset....it"ll probably take another generation or succeeding ones to eventually put an end to this. Hopefully.
Anyway thanks for all your positive comments Sir... Highly apperciated po yan.
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Well that's good to know Sir Dimmu. .Nakakapagtaka yan pero nakakatuwa din malaman. Kase masyado prominente ang abuso sa kababaihan sa Muslim countries. One gruesome example is yung female circumcision diba? That's very cruel and painful. At ginagawa nila yan sa murang edad pa lamang.
Hopefully though gradual ang process ng pagbabago, mabigyan ng effective na solusyon at tulong yung mas lalo nangangailangan ng suporta like yung nasa Africa.
There's a lot of work to do...but still, when we hear positive news and feedbacks about its progress... it'll surely inspire and motivate a lot of people to exert more effort to achieve even more positive results.
Thanks again for your comment Sir!
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Even though female circumcision is considered as a discrimination against women, I personally believe that it not. That it is more on ancient customs and traditions.
Because for me, kung itinuturing itong ganun, di dapat discrimination din ang pagpapatuli ng mga lalaki..
So dahil nga itinuturing nila itong discrimination and violence against women and children, the world is making effort to stop this. The United Nation is doing its part to stop this old practice.
Well that's good to know Sir Dimmu. .Nakakapagtaka yan pero nakakatuwa din malaman. Kase masyado prominente ang abuso sa kababaihan sa Muslim countries. One gruesome example is yung female circumcision diba? That's very cruel and painful. At ginagawa nila yan sa murang edad pa lamang.
Hopefully though gradual ang process ng pagbabago, mabigyan ng effective na solusyon at tulong yung mas lalo nangangailangan ng suporta like yung nasa Africa.
There's a lot of work to do...but still, when we hear positive news and feedbacks about its progress... it'll surely inspire and motivate a lot of people to exert more effort to achieve even more positive results.
Thanks again for your comment Sir!
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Sir Dimmu
Yung removal of female genitalia. .. ancient practice talaga yan just like yung male circumcision. Clinically speaking ang lalaki circumcised or nde, irrelevant naman yan..marami naman ang nde sumusunod sa practice na yan. And furthermore ang lalaki kapag tinuli, once lang lahat. ..pain, bleeding. ..trauma.
Pero sa female circumcision. ..Hindi ganun. Para sa mga babaing circumcised, kapag ginamit sixually. ..laging nag bibleed. And that is one trauma that she will have to deal with for the rest of her life.
I won't go on with the details. But obviously yang ancient practice na yan was done to satisfy the male ego. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's that.
They want a chaste and virgin bride...they prefer to make her a virgin all her life, bleeding everytime her back touch that damn marital bed. Cruel hindi ba? One sided sixual satisfaction. Discrimination? I say it's an injustice.
Buti na lang. ..Hindi naman lahat ng Kultura ay ganyan. ..but still...Ilan lang yan sa mga injustice sa amin.
But hey, kung injustice samin ang circumcision, nde naman dapat sa inyo. ..although meron din naman na okay lang regardless kung ehem hehehe...
Saka you have a choice naman regarding sa pagpapatuli diba? Unlike sa mga babae. ..forced sila para gawin yun.
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Naker! Nde kaya mapunta na toh a usapang ehem. ..Lolz!
;) ;) ;)
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I agree na marami talaga ang di sumusunod pero in this country, para kasing napakalaki ng pressure para sumunod sa kung anong nakasanayan / kultura.
Bata ka pa lang, ilalagay na sa isip mo na dapat magpatuli ka. O kung hindi habang panahon na ibubully ka ng mga nasa paligid mo. Kunwari lang yung meron kang choice pero in reality eh wala naman talaga..
Pero in your case, which do you prefer, tuli o hindi? :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Ano ba ang difference ng tuli sa hindi in terms of sixual intercourse? Just wondering..
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Wahaha!
Sinasabi ko na nga bah malalabuyo na tayo dito eh. .. >:D :o :book1:
Ako ba? Tuli? ! Haha ayaw ko nga. . E di laging nag bleed yun. Wet sticky and uncomfortable.
Sa guys? Hmnn pag may nakikita ako na nudist sa mga beaches sa Europe most of them uncircumcised. But na paka yummy and hot ng kasama nyang babae...so Palagay ko hindi issue yang Tuli or hindi.
Sabi nila sa hygiene? I don't think so. Personal hygiene is a learned habit and wala yan sa Paniniwala dahil kinagisnan.
My personal choice? As long as na mahal ko sya...everything else about him even his flaws are irrelevant. But , if he would like to please me by doing so, It must be his choice alone and not because na pressure syang gawin. Then he just got an extra effort from me para sa extrang respeto at pagmamahal.
Sir Dimmu, I'm going to raise my white flag UP this time.
...Labuyo na eh,! Haha...
:brucelee1: :brucelee1: :brucelee1:
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As you wish...
Thanks for your ideas. Its a nice conversation..
what is your favorite topic anyway?
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You're always welcome Sir
Kahit ano lang Sir, basta interesting ang topic. I'm fascinated with history , literature and a bit of everything. Wag lang numbers, it's my waterloo. >:D >:D >:D
Thanks again Sir for all your comments!