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Tambayan ng mga Chicx at Tsonx => General Discussion => Topic started by: razorsharp on July 29, 2014, 07:48:36 AM
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After all these years eto ang haka-hakang lumabas tungkol sa assassination ni Ninoy Aquino nung 1983. May mga malalapit na cronies daw si Ferdinand Marcos na di natuwa dito kasi hindi sila ang napili kaya plinano nila ang pagpapa-ligpit kay Ninoy. Hmmmm...
http://www.filipiknow.net/facts-about-ferdinand-marcos/ (http://www.filipiknow.net/facts-about-ferdinand-marcos/)
Alam ko mas may kabuluhan itong post na ito para sa mga napapanot nating mga ka-PT na nasa edad 40+ kaya pasensya nalang po sa mga mas nakababata dyan hehehe...
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aktually Japanese ang nag pa kill kay ninoy... Si haka-haka at si kuro-kuro... acheche...
seriouslly, up to now wala naman kase malinaw na ebidensya sino nga ba ang nagpapatay lahat kase may white wash at higit sa lahat napupulitika ang issue ahihi... its good na plan pala yan ni macoy ang gawing kapalit si ninoy...
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For 20 years the Marcoses thrived on their political dynasty... And obviously, i dont think that He opted for that kind option as to specifically pick Ninoy to be his successor.. Though , Aquino's political background is something to be regarded as an outstanding political asset, unfortunately his exploits with the masses were all used to counter the political agandas of the Marcoses thus making him the pro of the oppostition parties .
... He may have inspired and done a lot of relevance in our political history .. It's only sad that he was used as a bait in the anti government propaganda and it only resulted to that gruesome assasination.
A fair loss in the democratic sense, just another casualty in the dirty game of political strategies... But nontheless.... A sacrificial lamb.., that cut the Filipinos... Both ways.
.... We lost another great politician , made a pawn by those equally great minds of that dirty political era.
What a misfortune indeed.
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maybe yes... pero si Macoy ay nasilaw na sa pwesto niya.. so pwedeng nung una Oo but not later and beside si Imelda...sinumpa nya si Ninoy coz Imelda loves Ninoy, but she was dumped by Ninoy... so I dont think it will happen...Imelda is the Presidedent that time... ;D
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history will judge us by our currency: si marcos pirma lang nya ang nasa pera natin dati, si ninoy naman buong mukha na nya ang nasa pera natin!
tapos anjan pa yung asawa nya at ngayon naman anak din nya hehehe.
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After all these years eto ang haka-hakang lumabas tungkol sa assassination ni Ninoy Aquino nung 1983. May mga malalapit na cronies daw si Ferdinand Marcos na di natuwa dito kasi hindi sila ang napili kaya plinano nila ang pagpapa-ligpit kay Ninoy. Hmmmm...
http://www.filipiknow.net/facts-about-ferdinand-marcos/ (http://www.filipiknow.net/facts-about-ferdinand-marcos/)
Alam ko mas may kabuluhan itong post na ito para sa mga napapanot nating mga ka-PT na nasa edad 40+ kaya pasensya nalang po sa mga mas nakababata dyan hehehe...
kong tayo ay meron malalim at marurunong na pag-iisip at pagkilatis kong bakit nangyari yung kay ninoy, para sa akin malapit or kamag-anak nya rin ang nagpaligpit sa kanya at kahit siguro si ninoy ay nagsacrifice na sya dahil sa huling interview kay Ninoy ay binanggit nya na baka yun na ang huli nyang interview para sa kanya, isa lang ang sinasaisip ng mga marurunong ngayon na nakakaintindi, dahil alam ni Marcos na kong mamatay si ninoy ang unang iisipin ng mga taong bayan ay si Marcos ang nagapapatay kaya yun ang plinano ng mga Taong malapit din kay Marcos na pwedeng magpabagsak sa kanya at nagtagumpay nga sila. Kong titignan natin sinu sino ang mga bumaliktad kay Marcos ay sina Fidel Ramos, Gringo, Enrile, Angelo Reyes - siguro naman meron na maliwanag na pag-iisip ng mas nakakarami na kong titignan kong sinu-sino ang nagpakasasa after nawala si Marcos sa pwesto ay yan mga tao na yan na buliktas sa kanya at utak sa EDSA 1. Alam na ng mga nakakarami na planado na ng mga kaaway ni Marcos kong paano pabagsakin si Marcos na unang ginawang hakbang ay tinira nila ni Ninoy para ang papalabasin ay si Marcos ang nagpapatay kay Ninoy na nagtagumpay sila na lasunin ang pag-iisip ng mga Tao. Kong titignan natin kong si Cory na ang naging pangulo ay bakit nag Coup deta si Gringo kasi di nya matake na ganun ang mangyayari sa Pinas na biglang bagsak ang ekonomiya simula nawala si Marcos.
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Politics is just a dirty game of those dirty power greedy people who just love to fill their pockets at hindi para maglingkod sa bayan.
Sad to say we the masses, voted them and put them into their positions, expecting them to fulfill their promises ..pero propaganda lang lahat for the advancement of their poliical careers.
Asa lang ang tao sa maling pag asa na sinasabi nila... End result?
We are just pawns in their endless dirty scheming political games... Exploited na noon.. Exploited pa ren ngayon.
No wonder ang majority ng present generation natin... Kundi wala sa pilipinas , nagtatrabaho sa ibang bansa... E nasa lansangan... Patuloy na umaasa sa future na hindi nila makita kung nasaan.
Trash talaga ang pulitika kahit saan. Lalo na sa Pilipinas.
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ang nagpapatay ky ninoy mga kamag ana lang yan ni corry.
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politics politics
is it bad or good
hmmmm :-\.... just wanderin ....... ???
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Ang daming skeleton sa closet ng mga aquinos at cojuangcos since time immemorial. Karma lang sa kanila yan. I'm not defending Macoy, he got his own karma.
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Ang daming skeleton sa closet ng mga aquinos at cojuangcos since time immemorial. Karma lang sa kanila yan. I'm not defending Macoy, he got his own karma.
I agree with this one... Everybody has their own dirty laundry inside their secret trashbin. And for these politicians ( both, the straight and crooked ones) lalo na dun sa mga potential candidates for high ranking positions...expected na nila maglalabasan yan... Before the election...
They dont worry about it... They got their millions to do the dirty work for them... And afterall... Good or bad publicity... Is always a publicity... They're good at it... ' exploitation' of every resources they could get.
Twisted minds .. Twisted political system.. There's nothing new about it anyway...
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pariho lang naman sila ni marcoy at ninoy.. kahit itanong nyo sa mga lola at lolo nyo kung masarap ba ang buhay noong panahon ni makoy? kadalasan sa mga sagot di naman masarap ang buhay.. pag sumali ka sa politics ang pamilya at mga naka konekta lang naman sa ga politiko ang sasagana ang buhay.. nakakalungkot man pero yan ang katotohanan :)
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This is not all about politics..
Lee Kuan Yew, Prime Minister of Singapore from 1965 to 1990 and the main architect of modern Singapore shares us some of his observation and what he thought was the problem.
"He said we had many able people. There was no reason why the Philippines should not be as successful as other Asean countries. “Something was missing, a gel to hold society together. They were two different societies; those at the top lived a life of extreme luxury and comfort, while the peasants scraped a living… they had many children because the Church discouraged birth control. The result was increasing poverty.”
Culture of the Filipino people.
“The Philippines had a rambunctious press but it did not check corruption. Individual pressmen could be bought, as could many judges. Something had gone seriously wrong. Filipino professionals whom we recruited to work in Singapore are as good as our own. Indeed, their architects, artists, and musicians are more artistic and creative than ours…
“The difference lies in the culture of the Filipino people. It is a soft, forgiving culture. Only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over twenty years, still be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amounts of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics. They supported the winning presidential and congressional candidates with their considerable resources and reappeared in the political and social limelight after the 1998 election that returned President Joseph Estrada.”
His last line on the Philippines provided some answer to the problem: “Some Filipinos write and speak with passion. If they could get their elite to share their sentiments and act, what could they not have achieved?”
Politics is just a dirty game of those dirty power greedy people who just love to fill their pockets at hindi para maglingkod sa bayan.
Sad to say we the masses, voted them and put them into their positions, expecting them to fulfill their promises ..pero propaganda lang lahat for the advancement of their poliical careers.
Asa lang ang tao sa maling pag asa na sinasabi nila... End result?
We are just pawns in their endless dirty scheming political games... Exploited na noon.. Exploited pa ren ngayon.
No wonder ang majority ng present generation natin... Kundi wala sa pilipinas , nagtatrabaho sa ibang bansa... E nasa lansangan... Patuloy na umaasa sa future na hindi nila makita kung nasaan.
Trash talaga ang pulitika kahit saan. Lalo na sa Pilipinas.
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This is not all about politics..
Lee Kuan Yew, Prime Minister of Singapore from 1965 to 1990 and the main architect of modern Singapore shares us some of his observation and what he thought was the problem.
"He said we had many able people. There was no reason why the Philippines should not be as successful as other Asean countries. “Something was missing, a gel to hold society together. They were two different societies; those at the top lived a life of extreme luxury and comfort, while the peasants scraped a living… they had many children because the Church discouraged birth control. The result was increasing poverty.”
Culture of the Filipino people.
“The Philippines had a rambunctious press but it did not check corruption. Individual pressmen could be bought, as could many judges. Something had gone seriously wrong. Filipino professionals whom we recruited to work in Singapore are as good as our own. Indeed, their architects, artists, and musicians are more artistic and creative than ours…
“The difference lies in the culture of the Filipino people. It is a soft, forgiving culture. Only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over twenty years, still be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amounts of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics. They supported the winning presidential and congressional candidates with their considerable resources and reappeared in the political and social limelight after the 1998 election that returned President Joseph Estrada.”
His last line on the Philippines provided some answer to the problem: “Some Filipinos write and speak with passion. If they could get their elite to share their sentiments and act, what could they not have achieved?”
Admittedly... The unfortunate result of our political stature isnt at all about Politics.
Bad as it may seem... Our legislators both corrupt and straight in my opinion arenot capable to handle the current political chaos in our country.
... I read somewhere in your post, you gave a remarkable emphasis about our 'soft' culture.. True. But id rather say that we Filippinos are too generous... And too lenient with what's happening to us rightnow.
Obviously, as you say.. The problem here isnt politics but the POLITICIANS.
The crooked ones outnumber the straight patriotic ones.. Who sad to say , have no financial capabalities to support their reforms... They try in their blind faith through diplomacy... That problems concerning our laws, reforms and other economic issues will be resolved...by finding diolomatic ways, channeling out dialogues to those high ranking ( sad to say corrupt) officials... But may i ask? To what extent?
Results?
It's easy for us to anticipate, easy for us to analyze... But given the fact that filipinos have that kind of SOFT culture as you say...
I cannot blame our other countrymen to seek a better life somewhere else rathen than stay in our country...wherein apparently, the majority ( masses) continue to be oppressed and those crooked ones continue with their plundering agendas.
Soft as you say...? Is a being a revolutionary and a radical will completely solve our problems?
Will going after the Marcoses or the Cojuancos and the Aquinos...about their hidden ill gotten wealth... Will give us all what we crave for so many decades now?
Will ... A sword, a bullet.... an assault or a persecution...will give the Filipinos what they demand?
Political Dignity?
....that bald guy from China initiated his quite perfect doctrine, it took the chinese less than a century to come up with what that is China these days... And still... They haven't perfected it yet...
If you say Filipinos have a soft culture.... Sa palagay mo....
Nasan tayo as compared sa ibang countries.
Just my opinion though... I say what i think is right as my opinion... An i DONT.. Demand for my opinions to be accepted and agreed upon.
We all have the right to disagree.
But i do... Find your viewpoint... Extremely agreaable.
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I truly believed on the analysis of LKY, our culture creates the politicians that we have today..
As said by LKY, only in the Philippines that a statesman like Marcos, despite the fact that he looted billions of peso, is still considered for a national burial.
A convicted plunderer like Estrada is still in office.. Some members of Ampatuan family is still in office.. And so on..
Ang mga pulitiko ngayon ay sobra ng makakapal ang mukha na kahit sa kabila ng may kaso o napatunayang nagnakaw ay nagmamalaki pa na akala mo ay tama ang kanilang ginagawa..
Then the question is, ipinaganak na ba ang mga pulitiko na ganito? Siguro naman hindi ang sagot mo, naging ganito lang sila kasi nakita nila ang good example ni Makoy at kung anong naging reaksyon ng mga tao sa kanyang ginawa.
Masisisi ba natin ang mga pulitiko kung sakaling mangurakot sila?
Admittedly... The unfortunate result of our political stature isnt at all about Politics.
Bad as it may seem... Our legislators both corrupt and straight in my opinion arenot capable to handle the current political chaos in our country.
... I read somewhere in your post, you gave a remarkable emphasis about our 'soft' culture.. True. But id rather say that we Filippinos are too generous... And too lenient with what's happening to us rightnow.
Obviously, as you say.. The problem here isnt politics but the POLITICIANS.
The crooked ones outnumber the straight patriotic ones.. Who sad to say , have no financial capabalities to support their reforms... They try in their blind faith through diplomacy... That problems concerning our laws, reforms and other economic issues will be resolved...by finding diolomatic ways, channeling out dialogues to those high ranking ( sad to say corrupt) officials... But may i ask? To what extent?
Results?
It's easy for us to anticipate, easy for us to analyze... But given the fact that filipinos have that kind of SOFT culture as you say...
I cannot blame our other countrymen to seek a better life somewhere else rathen than stay in our country...wherein apparently, the majority ( masses) continue to be oppressed and those crooked ones continue with their plundering agendas.
Soft as you say...? Is a being a revolutionary and a radical will completely solve our problems?
Will going after the Marcoses or the Cojuancos and the Aquinos...about their hidden ill gotten wealth... Will give us all what we crave for so many decades now?
Will ... A sword, a bullet.... an assault or a persecution...will give the Filipinos what they demand?
Political Dignity?
....that bald guy from China initiated his quite perfect doctrine, it took the chinese less than a century to come up with what that is China these days... And still... They haven't perfected it yet...
If you say Filipinos have a soft culture.... Sa palagay mo....
Nasan tayo as compared sa ibang countries.
Just my opinion though... I say what i think is right as my opinion... An i DONT.. Demand for my opinions to be accepted and agreed upon.
We all have the right to disagree.
But i do... Find your viewpoint... Extremely agreaable.
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pariho lang naman sila ni marcoy at ninoy.. kahit itanong nyo sa mga lola at lolo nyo kung masarap ba ang buhay noong panahon ni makoy? kadalasan sa mga sagot di naman masarap ang buhay.. pag sumali ka sa politics ang pamilya at mga naka konekta lang naman sa ga politiko ang sasagana ang buhay.. nakakalungkot man pero yan ang katotohanan :)
nung panahon ni Macoy hindi pa tinuturing na ang mga kalahi natin Pinay ay mga "MAIDS", simula kay Cory doon na nagsimula tumaas ang presyo ng galunggong!!!!at simula kay Cory then up to now, ang turing na ng mga dayuhan sa mga Pinay ay mga "MAID".
nung panahon ni Macoy hindi pa talamak ang mga tsekwa dahil takot sila, ngayon tignan natin sa Pinas na ang mga Tsekwa "CHINESE" ang mga pinakaMAYAMAN at mga maimplewensya dahil sa mga under-SINDICATES nilang mga pinagkakakitaan. Noon panahon ni Macoy pag nahuli ang Chinese lalu sa mga smuggling drugs or rapists ay pinapatay hinahatulan, pero simula kay Cory madakip man ang Chinese dahil sa ilegal kinabukasan ay nakalaya or nakapuga na.
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for me, let history judge our country on what is the truth...
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for me, let history judge our country on what is the truth...
Agree, tsaka ang mahalaga ay ung kalayaang tinatamasa natin ngayon.