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Title: Atheist State Senator Introduces Bill, Would Force Churches to Pay Property Tax
Post by: Ozymandias on January 26, 2014, 11:50:41 PM
Nebraska’s Atheist State Senator Introduces Bill That Would Force Churches to Pay Property Taxes

Ernie Chambers is arguably the highest-ranking openly-atheist politician in the country right now. The African-American Nebraska State Senator served for 38 years (beginning in 1970), making him the longest-serving senator in the state’s history, until he was term-limited out in 2008. When he was eligible to run again in 2012, he did so and won easily.

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And now he has introduced a bill, LB675, that would eliminate a state property-tax exemption for religious organizations — essentially taxing churches.
The bill itself is a riot because all Chambers does is cross out the word “religious” from the current list of groups that are exempt from paying property taxes:

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Chambers’ Statement of Intent for the legislation:

The purpose of LB 675 is to help the State gain more revenue, rather than less, by taking away churches’ property tax exemptions.
The Governor and candidates for governor have said that “everything should be on the table.” If taxes were paid on the many churches and cathedrals and temples in every city in this State, perhaps the State’s assistance to local governments and schools would be diminished considerably — leaving more in State coffers for other purposes.
Religious people say they want to carry out the directives of Jesus who said, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s,” when he was asked whether taxes should be paid to Caesar.
In short: “PAY YOUR TAXES.”
This bill simply carries out what Jesus wanted to see his followers do, and they certainly want to see the Scriptures fulfilled.
As quoted the Lincoln Journal Star January 9, 2014: “Every day that someone offers a prayer in the Legislature, it should [signal] another vote for LB 675.
“This should be one of the easiest bills to pass that I’ve offered in the Legislature.”
Jesus knew about, and understood, taxes because his disciple, Matthew, heeded Jesus’ call to leave his place at the tax-gatherer’s booth and follow him.
All things considered, I expect my legislative colleagues to say, regarding this bill: “Let Thy will be done.” To which I can intone: “Amen.”

If enough politicians did this, it would have to pass somewhere, right…?
This isn’t Chambers’ first public battle against religion. In 2007, he famously sued God just to make a statement. Last year, during a filibuster, he remarked that the Mafia has higher standards than the Catholic Church hierarchy because if their members were “raping children, they’d off them.” And last March, he expertly took down an “ex-gay” man as well as a Christian psychologist making arguments against pro-LGBT legislation.
Title: Re: Atheist State Senator Introduces Bill, Would Force Churches to Pay Property Tax
Post by: Tonying Bayawak on January 27, 2014, 02:20:07 AM
It's pretty subjective nowadays, i've never been to Nebraska state but if religious institutions were like in the Philippines openning more business that's pretty much unrelated to their missions. If their only business is selling religious materials and icons I would have contradicted such law but if they were selling non-religious items or pretty far from their concept, e.g. purified water, grocery store, pharmacy. I would support such, hospitals are excusable for me because of their missions although over pricing such services would definitely raise some eyebrows especially if we're wondering what could be their mission perhaps in such manner.

Some would say it's for the donations of those religious sects but i would recommend Transcripts in such for a more credible reference. Kahit na sabihin nating wala tayong masyadong maisip na paggagastusan ng simbahan kailangan pa rin nating malaman kung saan pumupunta ang pera nila, proteksyon na rin nila yun lalo na kung may anumalya sa loob ng institusyon nila. The society needs transparency so that we will know if we've gave much or less help for their missions and visions. Taxation, however is pretty much subjective. It depends on how much they alot through donations compared to how much they alot for their own development including such miscellaneous expenses. Because such institutions and government was made only for the goodness and wellness of the society.
Title: Re: Atheist State Senator Introduces Bill, Would Force Churches to Pay Property Tax
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on January 29, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
I'm not really sure about this....but in my opinion it is a direct attack to the catholic church, damay-damay na lang ang ibang sect or religion... and coming from an unbeliever weighs even more kaya niya gustong mangyari ang ganito... but what quoted is true, if the state wants to tax everybody...they have the rights to do it, and everybody should follow. If the real intention is really for the good of the state...then why not.....
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