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Tambayan ng mga Chicx at Tsonx => General Discussion => Topic started by: caligula on January 12, 2014, 11:30:51 PM
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There was a time when I witnessed a person getting beaten and he was asking for help. Aaminin ko, I got scared and didn't do anything. I could have asked them to stop or called the police (I guess somebody did) but I became a spectator. Nang makauwi, I felt guilty. Pakiramdam ko I was an accessory to the crime for not doing anything.
Will you put yourself in the same dangerous situation and get involved? Who knows what else could happen. Kung magkaroon ng kaso, you will testify. Pwede ring magkaroon ng resbak sa mga nang away.
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I had such experience when I was eating at a food chain biglang nakita namin sa bintana may dalawang lalaking naghahabulan sumuntok yung humahabol tapos yung hinahabol tumigil sa food chain, sa aming tapat, siguro he felt secured. Akala ko bugbugan lang ng biglang bumunot ng kutsilyo yung nanghahabol tapos sinaksak niya ng 4x sa dibdib. Nagsigawan yung mga kasama ko at napalingon siya sa amin. Tumakbo siya sa madilim na lugar then some of us went out, with the security guard, para tingnan yung biktima unfortunately he died... The police came and started an investigation at isa ako sa witness at nagdescribe sa suspect, may cctv nga naman sa drive thru hindi naman nagrerecord. Hindi ko alam kung bakit pero hindi naman ako tinawag para magtestify sa korte even so isa ako sa may pinakamalapit sa scene. Ang sabi nalang ng kakilala ko doon, months after, the guy was arrested for murder. Iba pala ang feeling because I saw many people die due to my profession but seeing a crime would be so much different especially if your life would also be in danger. And it was 6 years from now and I know i will not forget it.
By that time I also had your problem, in the Philippines it's not really paranoia it is reality that your life could be in danger with such situation. Natakot ako para sa aking sarili lalo't lumingon siya sa amin, ang siguradong nahihirapan doon ay yung kakilala ko na malapit lang doon ang tinitirahan nya. Honestly when I was asked by the police I've been willing to testify. Siguro dahil marami kami noon and I wanted justice and I am somewhat safe because I live far from the area and I can move out for my own security.
Somehow subjective po ang issue kaya I won't judge any person to whatever their decision would be. It's all about your guts and priority to a person's life and justice. Hindi ko masisisi ang kaibigan ko na umatras and took a long way afar from the scene, he just valued his safety and his life. Well, about 7 months I came back to the scene, I felt safe naman at naging tamabayan na ulit namin minsan, somehow yung mga babaeng kasama ko may trauma pa siguro hanggang ngayon.
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For me po theres a saying na don't poke your nose in other peoples business, you don't know the real story behind that act.
Experiment 626 aka stitch
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And the antithesis to your quote mikul8 is "all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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marami na ako nasaksihan na gulo na winish ko na nakatulong ako..
hirap pag nakikisyoso at hindi ka tumutulong...
pero hindi kaya lalo na pag ang gulo eh away gang, frat wars etc..
i wish na maging captain barbel ako at ng makatulong sa mga naapi :))...
kung conversations ang pag aaway nila at sa tingin ko may nilalait sila dito pwede makapag butt in..
pero kung physical na ang labanan naku better to find some safe place baka madamay pa ako dahil wala rin naman sila paki alam sa akin kung ano man manyari sa akin...
nakakafeel lang ako ng regret sa hindi pagtulong yun mga naaksidente na madaanan mo na lang kasi hindi mo alam kung paano mo tutulungan...
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Kung takot ka madamay dre, o kaya tingin mo delikado, pinaka mainam na gawin mo sa ganyan tandaan mo lahat ng mga nangyari saka itsura ng mga involved na tao (height, weight, suot na damit, haba ng buhok, kulay ng balat, etc). Para makatulong ka sa mga pulis na mag iimbestiga.
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kung di ko kilala yung taong binubogbog eh wala ako pakialam maski pa patayin yan sa harap ko, mahirap na madamay masarap mabuhay nang malaya...
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although i do not wish to witness this kind of situation... but for sake of argument... sa sitwasyon ngayon... it's better wag ka na makialam... why?
dahil sa karahasan ngayon sa atin.. baka madamay ka pa or worse mapatay ka pa... di mo alam baka mamaya me bitbit na baril pala yung involve... mahirap na... ang maitutulong mo na lang ay maghanap ng pulis in case na me makita ka... or tanod... then ireport ang sitwasyon.. pero kung iba ang sitwasyon halimbawa... me irerape na babae... aba.. kailangan sumaklolo ka na dun sa babae...
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I always meddle. And my wife hates me for it.
Years ago in Harrison Plaza a woman was shouting from afar. I could not make out what she's saying but I saw a man running with a woman's bag in hand towards us. I delivered a kick which could make my taekwondo instructor proud. The culprit ended up getting clobbered.
Another time while walking in Paz Street in Paco after hearing mass I saw a man snatch the necklace of a girl in a jeepney. That was 15 years ago and I was 100 lbs lighter then. I chased and threw him on the glass windows of Wendy's (Wendy's is gone now, replaced by 7-11). The glass did not break but his face did.
These type of incidents tapered off as the years passed. Either I'm not "lucky" enough to be close to such situations. But if the situation presents itself, I will always meddle and my wife (sigh) will always give me an earful.
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My reaction would depend on the situation, hindi kasi ako yung tao na suntok kaagad bago mag-isip. I also hate to see a helpless individual being beaten to death..but i have this intuition to assest the situation first bago ako umaksiyon. If kaya kong tulungan yung tao physically, i'll do it. I've been in a situation na tumulong pero pati ako muntik ng magulpi, after that i've learn my lesson. Being a hero is good but it doesn't necessarily mean na susugod agad tayo ng basta-basta...we can always help a person thru other means....if we used our brain and sometimes even if we want, may mga pagkakataon na kahit gusto nating tumulong eh hindi pupwede.....
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So far simula ng naghanda/prepare ako sa mga ganyang situations ay tsaka naman wala naman akong nachechempuhan na inaargabyado na nangangailangan ng tulong.
A few years back ang dami kong nawitness na mga holdapan at mga modus sa bus at jeepney tapos may mga taong nakakakita pero nagbubulag bulagan lang sila. Inis na inis ako. Gusto kong tumulong pero naisip ko na hindi naman ako sanay sa bakbakan kaya baka ako din ang mapahamak. Kaya naman sinimulan ko mag aral ng martial arts. For self defense lang sana pero bandang huli naging amateur fighter ako and even fought once professionally.
Pero kahit may alam nako sa larangan ng bakbakan, napaisip padin ako sa mga posts niyo. Case to case basis din siguro. Kung sa tingin ko na kakayanin ko, say mga tatlong kalalakihan pero mga mukang malamya naman eh sige tutulong ako at titirahin ko yung tatlo. Pero kung say na isang tao lang pero kargado ng boga o patalim at kita sa ichura niya na walang patutunguhan ang buhay at gagawin ang kahit anong naisin, think twice na siguro ako. Kaya naman natin mag assess ng tao kung kakayanin natin eh. Unahan lang kung sino masisindak. Pag di ako nasindak sa kanila, go. Pag nasindak naman nila ko, go away na ko.
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i probably will do that, lalo na when i was younger, para lang reflex but after na ko mag-iisip at magsisisi if ever, ilang beses na rin akong napagalitan for doing so, ngayon medyo nakakapag-isip na muna before i´ll throw myself into the scene
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I think all I can do is help the person na nasaktan pagkatapos mangyari nung insidente. On the first place, di ko naman alam yung pangyayari. Maaring yung nasakatan ang masamang tao, hindi natin alam.
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based on the example above, no, i will not meddle with someone else's.. madaling pasukin ang gulo at maki-awat pero mahirap lumabas after sa gulo.. mostly napapahamak pa or napapatay pa ang umaawat.. you'll never know if may mga kasamahan pa yang nanggulpi sa taong tutulungan mo, tutulong ka lang ikaw pa ang madadale..mahirap maging hero sa eksena..it's their fate and not mine..times like these we need to be wise in our decisions no matter how impulsive it requires us to make one..
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And the antithesis to your quote mikul8 is "all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
I think you are working on either of these premises:
1: Na yung ninubugbog ay laging evil and/or yung binubugbog ang laging good.
2. Yung mismong act ng pambubugbog can never be morally justified regardless ng dahilan, kung kaya't evil ito.
In both cases, I disagree. Misleading na sabihing antithesis yan ng "Don't mind other people's business" na ang salungat ay actually "Mind other people's business".
Basta sa akin, snob lang kung di ko kilala unless may immediate threat din sakin na involved. Sometimes people confuse being smart and practical as being cowardly or being evil.