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Title: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: bohica on December 24, 2013, 10:26:55 AM
Asia's in an uproar over China's declaration of an Air Defense Identification Zone, or ADIZ -- one that encompasses 1 million square miles of the East China Sea. Japan, Korea, and even the U.S. have all sent planes to overfly the new ADIZ. In Japan, they're talking about beefing up their air force, establishing a new marine corps -- maybe even building their first aircraft carrier since WWII.

China's said to be incensed by Japan's move, and considering the countries' history together, you can imagine why...

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Imperial Japanese Navy cruiser Izumo, at port in occupied Shanghai, 1937.

But in fact, Japan may already have an aircraft carrier. In fact... they may already have two.

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Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force helicopter destroyer JS Hyuga (DDH 181).

Over the past four years, Japan has commissioned two new ships that, by some definitions, fit the definition of "aircraft carrier." The JS Hyuga and JS Ise weigh in at 14,000 tons displacement each, and are twice as big as the Haruna-class ships they replaced. Japan calls the new vessels "helicopter destroyers," referring to their destroyer-scale size (about the same size as America's Zumwalt-class destroyer), and the fact that the flat-topped vessels carry an aerial force of helicopters.

But are they really "aircraft carriers?" For perspective, here's roughly how a Hyuga-class vessel looks relative to a "real" aircraft carrier such as the USS George Washington (CVN 73):

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JS Hyuga steaming in formation with USS George Washington.

Small, right? But with each new iteration, Japan's helicopter destroyers are getting bigger. In August, Japan floated the new JS Izumo, the first of a planned two-ship production run that will add significant punching power to the Japanese fleet. Thirty-four percent larger than Hyuga, the Izumo and her sister ship (as yet unnamed) are due to be commissioned in March 2015 and March 2017, respectively. When they sail, they'll probably be carrying as many as 14 of United Technology's (NYSE: UTX  ) Sikorsky Seahawk helicopters on board.

What has China worried, though, is their potential to carry Boeing (NYSE: BA  ) Textron (NYSE: TXT  ) V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft. That would transform the vessels into aircraft carriers by definition. Were Japan to modify the vessels -- for example, by adding additional heat-shielding to their flight decks -- the Izumos could conceivably be outfitted to launch and land Lockheed Martin's (NYSE: LMT  ) short-take-off/vertical-landing version of the F-35 stealth fighter jet, the F-35B.

Seeing the future
Whether this is actually Japan's plan for the Izumo-class ships remains unknown. But there does appear to be a trend toward the country increasing the size of its "helicopter destroyers" with each successive generation it builds. This suggests that even if Izumo isn't ultimately outfitted with F-35s, the next carrier Japan builds could be so big, that it only makes sense to put fighter jets on board.

Personally, I think that day is still a ways off -- if for no other reason, then because to date, Japan has only placed orders with Lockheed Martin to supply its Air Self-Defence Force with conventional "A"-variant F-35 fighter jets. The big clue that a "real" aircraft carrier is in the works, of course, will be when Japan places an order for F-35Bs. (To ensure you hear about that development when it happens, stay tuned to our continuing coverage of foreign military sales contracts.)

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Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 24, 2013, 10:39:01 AM
well if japan makes war ship again then china should be worried

'cause japan's history on naval wars is really something

they created really great ships to stand toe to toe with USA

and they even showed superior firepower..

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Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: Lord Nok Von Hauten on December 24, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
Thank you sir bohica for this info. This a good and precise move of Japan, just to stop bullying of china to other countries... nice one...
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: manforest on December 24, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
its about time that someone in asia rises up to the challenge being put up by china....
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: Prime™ on December 24, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Japan must re-arm. Before okay lang, keep Japan at bay, we all know the havoc and hell they raised here in Asia, and namely China whom they have raped and ransacked immensely before WW2.

This time is different, China is claiming hegemony over much of Asia. There must be a real contender. Korea will not reunify, India has long ways to go and has Pakistan to contend with, so the mantle of responsibility goes to Japan as a default.

The US cannot keep much of Asia under her sphere of influence if without tangible assistance from the likes of sleeping tigers like Japan.

Sleeping, fierce and dangerous tigers like Japan.
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: tonistork on December 28, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
mas lalong nagiging nerbyoso ang nerbyoso ng mga intsik-tong mga ito sa ginagawa ng mga hapon lately.

 dapat talaga pinagbabatukan na natin mga chinese national na makasalubong natin,  ;D
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: kylun on December 28, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
Nakakatakot kapag na2loy ang gera ng 2 bansa n yn..mlalakas ung armas pang gera nla..

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Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on December 28, 2013, 02:44:26 PM
Japan must re-arm. Before okay lang, keep Japan at bay, we all know the havoc and hell they raised here in Asia, and namely China whom they have raped and ransacked immensely before WW2.

This time is different, China is claiming hegemony over much of Asia. There must be a real contender. Korea will not reunify, India has long ways to go and has Pakistan to contend with, so the mantle of responsibility goes to Japan as a default.

The US cannot keep much of Asia under her sphere of influence if without tangible assistance from the likes of sleeping tigers like Japan.

Sleeping, fierce and dangerous tigers like Japan.

very well said... bro Prime

Nice topic bro Bohica

+karma for both of you

I think Japan have been brought to the edge kaya nagpapakita na rin sila ng pagkilos in stregnthening their naval force... and it is really good to know kasi, somebody needs to keep China in check and Japan is really the best to intimidate China....
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: Itachi101 on December 30, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
sana mayron din tayong ganyan
nakaka ingit ang ibang bansa may ganyan sila
Title: Re: Japan Has a Helicopter Destroyer -- and It's Making China Nervous
Post by: radicalerror on January 03, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
Im still waiting for a gundam to appear xDDD

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