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Title: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on December 18, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
GUys ano sa tingin niyo ang mas astig at mas maangas na grupo ng kontra bida sa dalawang magandang anime na to?
 Akatsuki = group of S rank ninjas/ kage level
  wardrobe = black cloak with a red cloud logo/ Rings
   objective: capture all ten tailed beast/..world domination...end world war
Spiders = group of skilled nen users/ masters of their own nen category
  wardrobe = none , just a numbered spider tattoo on their  body
 objective: gang of thieves/philanthropic works/Meteor city's frontline force
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: phil_13 on December 18, 2013, 03:32:25 PM
 :-X
Syempre Akatsuki..

Mas Malakas sila.. :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Itachi101 on December 18, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
fyi
mga patay na ang mga Akatsuki
kaya dun na ako sa mga active pa rin Genei Ryodan ako :brucelee1:
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: broski045 on December 19, 2013, 12:37:33 AM
Ryodan, dahil mas may chance silang magkaroon ng better characterization and development due to having a better writer (Togashi).

Contrasting Akatsuki na mostly arguably 1-dimensional characters except for Sasori-Oro pair, Itachi-Kisame pair, and Pain-Konnan pair.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: charliehouse on December 19, 2013, 05:10:20 AM
Ryodan mas efficient at organized kumilos.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 19, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
Ryodan are much efficient and the do things as a group

which makes them much more threat than akatsuki..

and still ryodan hasn't shown its fullest power..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on December 22, 2013, 04:26:55 AM
 ;D ;D yup tama kayo karamihan sa mga antagonist ng HxH sobrang mysterious..to the point na mapapaisip ka kung bakit sila ganun.. tulad nila Binolt at Razor na mga ex convict
(hindi pala maganda ung past nila).. Tonpa ung rookie crusher(disheartened psychotic freak)
Meleoron, Ikalgo and Colt na naging kaibigan nila at kahit ung enlightenment ni Meruem(Chimera ant king) reasonable ung actions nila.... Gon and killua's innocence has somehow made  a change within them..
Ganun din naman sa Naruto, Akatsuki's reason for being formed is indeed noble, kung di lang dumating si Obito at Madara.. Itachi joined the group to act as a spy , providing info about the group's actions.. Kisame bad as he is, had  not  failed to leak anything about akatsuki, Sasori on the other hand, lost his parents at a young  age because of war..
Between the two,  the phantom troupe had really caught my curiosity, mas malalim at elaborative.Dagdag pa yung personality nila na sobrang maangas at cool .Talaga sigurong mahusay ung writer , ung lang matagal ng hiatus state ang series..May sakit daw ang writer..HxH will only be completed with the dissection of Spiders.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: broski045 on December 22, 2013, 09:07:06 PM
Ang mas gusto ko din talaga sa Ryodan is yung camaraderie nila. Alam mong most (if not all) of them legit na may pakialam sa other members. Yung back story nila ay solid, pati yung mga reactions nila pag namatayan sila ng member. Tapos yung bangayan nila, minsan parang sibling or friendly rivalry talaga. (si Shizuku nga ata yung parang kapatid na babatok sa inyong dalawa pag magulo ayaw nyong umayos)

Pakunoda's kidnapping sub-arc is also one of those defining moment ng Ryodan. :'(
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on December 23, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
yeah you're right they somehow care about each other more than Akatsuki, although
one of the way  to make it through the group is killing a member.. May part doon kung
saan sinabi ni Machi  isasali nila sa grupo si Kurapika kung gusto ni Kuroro(Boss)
Nagalit si Nobunaga, given the fact na qualify  si Kurapika for killing Uvogin. :book1: :book1:
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 24, 2013, 12:46:40 AM
well one thing is for sure here both group is awesome

but the fact is almost all members of akatsuki is dead,

only ones left is obito, and zetsu.. i dunno if i could put madara as a member..

but that's that Genei Ryodan still complete with new recruit too

even the boss is not active still they are there alive...

yet to be defeated.. but i still dont see that coming for now..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on December 24, 2013, 12:56:24 AM
i still go for akatsuki kahit na patay na silang lahat... iba kasi ang lakas nila compare sa ibang grupo
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 24, 2013, 01:07:45 AM
i still go for akatsuki kahit na patay na silang lahat... iba kasi ang lakas nila compare sa ibang grupo

yeah the level of strength and destruction akatsuki

is far more superior.. for example kisame who can create a sea

out of now where.. Pain who can level a whole village in an instant..

its just both anime have different power ceiling..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: charliehouse on December 24, 2013, 01:15:55 PM
yeah you're right they somehow care about each other more than Akatsuki, although
one of the way  to make it through the group is killing a member.. May part doon kung
saan sinabi ni Machi  isasali nila sa grupo si Kurapika kung gusto ni Kuroro(Boss)
Nagalit si Nobunaga, given the fact na qualify  si Kurapika for killing Uvogin. :book1: :book1:

pwede bang malaman kung saang chapter ito sir? kung saan may offer ang ryodan for kurapika?
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 24, 2013, 04:26:30 PM
meron bang ganyan? sa pagkakatanda ko naman eh

wala eh ewan ko lang matagal na since last ko binasa ang HxH

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: charliehouse on December 25, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
^ naging curious ako, sana naman totoo... pero mukhang malabo eh, ano naman ang motive ng ryodan para gawin nilang member si kurapika lol hehe
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on December 27, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
The episode where machi and Nobunaga are sitting together,where Gon ,killua and Leorio are observing them . Thou not directly, Machi had open up that possibility, believing that Chrollo wants to recruit the chain user  since their orders  is to find and bring him back ,but Nobunaga insisted that the "find and bring him back"  orders means dead or alive. ^-^
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: charliehouse on December 29, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
So wala ngang declaration nor implication na sinabi ni machi? speculation and declaration are two different things kasi.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 29, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
well i need to review that part too

maybe when i get home.. i'll watch it on anime and read it on manga

just to be certain but i think this is just a speculation..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: kiraxmisax on December 29, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
if memory serves right, and discussion was about killing kurapika right there but holding back because of the boss' orders. and i kinda remeber getting the implication but thinking this will be impossible. sana tama pagkaka.alala ko.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 29, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
if memory serves right, and discussion was about killing kurapika right there but holding back because of the boss' orders. and i kinda remeber getting the implication but thinking this will be impossible. sana tama pagkaka.alala ko.

sa pagkaka alala ko nga somewhat the discussion is like that

and there is nothing about "Chain user" recruitment thing..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Ozymandias on December 30, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
The episode where machi and Nobunaga are sitting together,where Gon ,killua and Leorio are observing them . Thou not directly, Machi had open up that possibility, believing that Chrollo wants to recruit the chain user  since their orders  is to find and bring him back ,but Nobunaga insisted that the "find and bring him back"  orders means dead or alive. ^-^

Actually he's right, almost forgot about Machi's interpretation sa paghanap nila sa chain user from episode 49. Kasi may rule din na pag tinalo mo ang isang member ng ryodan, possible na marecruit ka as a replacement ng tinalo mong member. Pero syempre it's not suited for Kurapika haha

Fast forward to 5:00 minute mark!
http://youtu.be/zTWg_gf2Ds8?t=4m59s (http://youtu.be/zTWg_gf2Ds8?t=4m59s)

Para wala ng "may ganyan ba?"

 :peace:
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Ozymandias on December 30, 2013, 02:20:21 PM
On Topic:

For overall impact sa story line I'll go for akatsuki dito because of their agenda of world domination, plus they're the main antagonists sa world of Naruto.

If we match them up, I will still go for akatsuki, for their individual abilities and power levels. They can dominate any village at any given time if they choose to.

May costume pa yung akatsuki with their cloak, at di ka pwede maging poser nila dahil sa sobrang high profile nila.

Now for character variety I'll go for genei ryodan, di sila one sided characters compared sa most members ng akatsuki na gusto lang ng chaos sa world. They're not the strongest sa world of HxH but they're definitely as deadly as the akatsuki. Up until now nobody dares to touch them.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Zurca on December 30, 2013, 06:00:19 PM
i'll go for akatsuki too lol why? just like sir ozy said lol

If we match them up, I will still go for akatsuki, for their individual abilities and power levels. They can dominate any village at any given time if they choose to.

May costume pa yung akatsuki with their cloak, at di ka pwede maging poser nila dahil sa sobrang high profile nila.

Now for character variety I'll go for genei ryodan, di sila one sided characters compared sa most members ng akatsuki na gusto lang ng chaos sa world. They're not the strongest sa world of HxH but they're definitely as deadly as the akatsuki. Up until now nobody dares to touch them.

though mas matatalino ang ryodan kesa sa akatsuki, better strategies, analysis, cooperation and team work. nasolve nila ang kung saan ang greed island, naisahan nila ang mafia (york shin city arc) and they can move w/o their dancho too.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on December 30, 2013, 06:42:42 PM
thanks for that ozy you save me from a lots of research..

well it we will match this two group akatsuki will be on top..

but that's what not the TS said.. its about who you prefer..

and Genei Ryodan has more positive things than the other group..

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: radicalerror on January 02, 2014, 08:55:50 PM
Spiders gusto ko kasi ung tattoo nila

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Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: broski045 on January 03, 2014, 09:48:38 AM
Isa pang mas maganda sa Ryodan ay yung character design. Mas flexible at hindi nakakasawa look nila dahil hindi restricted sa isang "uniform" look. Nakakatuwa especially yung costume changes nina Phinks, Kuroro, at Feitan.

Actually, I think this applies sa lahat ng HxH characters. Para ngang mas realistic na nagpapalit sila ng damit.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on January 06, 2014, 01:02:01 PM
ok cge may mga nagreact sa sinabi ko pero yun kasi ang interpretation ko ng conversation nila..bahala na kayo kung paano niyo ma digest yun.. siguro bluff lang yung argument.  para magalit si nobunaga kay machi.. dahil dun nag realease sila ng aura, naramdaman nila killua at gon yun, siguro ang purpose ni machi dahil alam nila may nakatingin sa kanila..

 Anyway dun sa powers, mas malakas talaga ang akatsuki kesa sa ryodan...yun ang gusto nang iba  sa kanila, pero sa skills at strategy mas lamang ang ryodan (thou you cant ignore Itachi's  skills ang fighting strategy )
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: angelmassacre on January 18, 2014, 11:20:35 PM
kung mag clash siguro ang spiders vs. akatsuki sa tingin ko may small chance na tumabla pa. tandaan na skill hunter si Chrollo, kaya nyang i-outwit ang mga members ng akatsuki (except Itachi)

Ang iniisip ko lang kung magkakaharap si Hidan at si Feitan. kung sino mananalo sa kanila, at tsaka may similarity kung paano mag work yung skill nila eh.
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: Chrollo on January 21, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
Magandang idea yung match up ng dalawang grupo yung tipong pa-angasan ika nga eh.. ps vs xbox, canon vs nikon, samsung vs apple...kaya lang hindi sa lakas kungdi sa ego..baka mag asaran pa tong mga to bago maglaban..
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: lusotako on January 23, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
I'll go for Phantom ^_^ obvious naman before ko makita ang Akatsuki, Nagustuhan ko agad yung tema ng Spiders. lalo na si Kuroro *skill hunter* bagay talaga sa kanya kasi magnanakaw sila. ;)
Title: Re: Akatsuki o Spiders (phantom troupe)
Post by: sugunoy on January 31, 2014, 01:19:48 PM
mejo hindi pa pinapakita ang lakas ng genei ryodan..
pero mejo oeverpowered si obito...

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