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Title: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Zurca on November 27, 2013, 08:34:59 PM

MANILA, Philippines – Fresh from his victory against American boxer Brandon Rios in Macau, professional boxer and Sarangani Rep Emmanuel "Manny" Pacquiao now faces a different opponent – the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR).

Pacquiao said the tax bureau ordered his bank accounts frozen due to a P2.2-billion tax evasion case, leaving him financially paralyzed.

"This is harassment," the former eight-division world champion said in a television interview.

The disclosure came just two days after Pacquiao, 34, resurrected his boxing career with a unanimous points decision over Rios in Macau.

He dedicated his victory to victims of Super Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan), which claimed thousands of lives in Visayas region this month.

Pacquiao arrived in the Philippines Tuesday, November 26 and immediately addressed the tax issue in a statement released to the media.

In his statement, he hit back calling BIR's accusations "baseless."

"The BIR claims I earned more than what I actually did, without any evidence to back it up. They ignored information given by Top Rank and HBO and insisted I earned more," he said. "My lawyers have given them all the info that they want and they still refuse to believe. I really don't know why I am being singled out."

Pacquiao asked the Court of Tax Appeals to lift the bank freeze, but the court has yet to rule on the petition, according to court papers.

'Not DAP or PDAF'

Pacquiao, who is on his second term as Sarangani representative, compared his situation with the legal scrutiny being faced by public funds.

"Hindi ako makapag-withdraw ni isang singkong sentimo sa sarili ko pong pera. Hindi ko magamit para man lang makatulong. Ang pera kong ginarnish ng BIR ay hindi po nakaw at hindi po PDAF (Priority Development Assistance Fund) o DAP (Disbursement Acceleration Program). Ito po ay galing sa lahat ng suntok, bugbog, pawis at dugo na tiniis ko sa boxing," he added.

(I cannot withdraw even one cent of my own money. I can't even use it to help. My money that was garnished by the BIR was not stolen, it's not PDAF or DAP. It came from all the punches, sweat and blood that I endured in boxing.)

The Supreme Court earlier declared lawmakers' PDAF, the subject of a multibillion scam, as unconstitutional. Meanwhile, the court is presently hearing oral arguments for DAP, the executive's economic booster scheme.

Only P1M was frozen

BIR chief Kim Henares confirmed that bank accounts of Pacquiao and his wife were frozen.

However, she denied any harassment, saying only two bank accounts containing a total of P1.1 million were held.

She said she issued a warrant of distraint and levy after Pacquiao failed to pay his liabilities. "We wrote banks and told them if you see his money, tell us how much and garnish that amount," she said in a radio interview.

She said out of 22 banks they wrote, only two reported holding accounts owned by the boxing champ.

"Our presumption is there's no other money that's been garnished except for that P1.1 million. The banks should have reported it to us if they are in fact holding money in custody for the government."

The amount is measly considering the huge winnings Pacquiao takes home from his boxing matches.

Asked where he could be keeping the rest of his money, Henares replied: "Ay hindi ko alam sa kanila. Posibleng na-withdraw na bago na-garnish. O kaya ang pera n'ya ay wala dito, nasa America or nasa ibang bansa." (We don't know with them. It's possible he already withdrew his money before we ordered it garnished. Or maybe his money's not here, it's in the US or some other country.)

Tax case

The freeze order stemmed from a case filed by the tax bureau, alleging Pacquiao has P2.2 billion in unpaid taxes, including interest and surcharges.

BIR claimed Pacquiao failed to declare his winnings from his 2008 and 2009 boxing matches in his income tax returns for said years.

But the boxing icon said he already paid taxes on those earnings in the US, which has a treaty with the Philippines that allows citizens of both countries to avoid double taxation.

He said the tax bureau rejected the documents he provided to prove he had already paid the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

"I am not a criminal or a thief. I am not hiding anything. I will face my problems as they come," Pacquiao said.

"I have already paid my taxes in America. Had I not paid the correct taxes they (US authorities) would have come after me and I would not have been able to travel there."

Henares said that taxes paid in the US are creditable here, but she stressed a proper process of filing must be followed.

"Kailangan i-report lahat ng kita mo, tapos ko-kompyutin ang tax sa Pilipinas. Tapos no'n pwede mong ibawas ang binayad mong buwis sa America pero dapat may evidence na nagbayad ka sa IRS." (All earnings must be reported in the Philippines and your taxes will be based on that. After that, taxes you paid in the US will be deducted provided you have evidence that you indeed paid the IRS.)

Henares said Pacquiao failed to submit the proper documents.

She said the bureau gave him two years to respond to their assessment but all he submitted was a letter from his US promoter Top Rank saying he had paid his taxes in the US, according to Henares.

"Anyone can write that. That's not official document," she noted.

President Benigno Aquino's spokesman Herminio Coloma brushed off suggestions Pacquiao was being singled out for political harassment.

"We are a government of laws, not of men," Coloma told reporters.

The government has been running a campaign against high-profile tax evaders, targeting movie stars as well as businessmen who flaunt their wealth through flashy sports cars.

Donations for Yolanda victims

Pacquiao said most of his cash was kept in his Philippine bank accounts. He did not say how much was garnished.

He said the freeze order left him without money to pay his staff, and forced him to borrow "not less than one million pesos" to fulfill pledges to help victims of Typhoon Yolanda.

Pacquiao is now eyeing more lucrative fights in the US as he continues to pursue a political career.

At his peak, he was regarded as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, becoming the only man to win world titles in eight weight divisions.

The former street kid who ran away from home to pursue a boxing career became one of the globe's wealthiest athletes.

But his career nosedived after suffering two losses last year, the second in a humiliating knockout to Mexican Juan Manuel Marquez that prompted questions over whether the ageing warrior should retire.

But even last year, Forbes magazine listed him as the 14th highest-paid athlete globally with an estimated $34 million in earnings.

From Rappler.com (http://www.rappler.com/business/44647-manny-pacquiao-bir-freeze-order-tax-evasion)

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on November 27, 2013, 09:00:02 PM

ewan ko ba sa BIR wala yatang magawang matino...

paano lalabas ng USA ang price money ni pacman na di nakakaltasan ng tax

and i do strongly think that isn't educated enough to deal about

a huge tax evasion scheme.. he fought for the money sweat and blood

how could he think of evading taxes... specially that his fight are all in abroad

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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Filgert on November 27, 2013, 09:12:04 PM

Hindi daw mam nabalatuhan yung sila henares kaya ganyan.heheh


Kidding aside,tama lang naman na pagbayarin si pacman ng tamang halaga ng tax.pero sana hindi selective ang papogi ng gobyernong aquino.hindi pa ba obvious na bayad si pacman ng buwis sa us?e napakahigpit ng irs pag dating sa singilan.ultimo mga hollywood stars e nakulong dahil sa tax evasion dun.e d sana hindi na nakalaban si pacman sa vegas nung 2009-2012 kung hindi sya nagbayad ng tax sa irs ng 2008-2009. Me pag kabastos pa sumagot ung henares sa interview re: sa letter ng top rank promotions na nagbayad sila ng tax ni pacman.tsk


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 27, 2013, 09:16:42 PM

dont blame the BIR. comply with requirements. thats it. better yet, pag aralan natin ang taxation sa pilipinas. meron yan sa college and i guess minor units yan sa lahat ng 4 year course. kapag naunawaan nyo na ang taxation law ng pilipinas then masasabi nyo lang kung mali nga ba ang BIR or yung nag kwenta ng ITR ni pacman. PACMAN is the country's pride. walang duda yan. pero trabaho ng BIR ang maghabol sa mga hindi nababayarang buwis. malay natin sa mga susunod na araw tayo naman ang may kasong TAX EVATION. wag tayo padalos dalos sa pag comment kasi hindi naman natin alam ang tunay na dahilan ng bawat kampo. nakiki anggi lang naman tayo sa mga bali balita sa tv at social media eh.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Filgert on November 27, 2013, 09:20:40 PM

Oo tama nga ang bir.tamang mangolekta ng tamang buwis.pero yung selectiveness nila sa pagpapatupad nito,wala ata sa kahit anong kurso sa kolehiyo.


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 27, 2013, 09:22:44 PM

if pacman really paid his amusement tax at the IRS then show the documents. ganun lang yun. ang bir may ngipin din ang batas nila. kaya nila tayong ipakulong. kaya nga comply with the rules. kung talagang totoong bayad na ang buwis nya eh di hindi na sana lalabas ang balitang ito na 2 years overdue na pala.

simple lang naman ang batas ng bir eh. kapag may kinita ka, magbayad ka ng buwis. kung may tax exemptions ka, ipakita mo dokumento mo. then amanos na tayo. kapag may ari arian ka tulad ng bahay at lupa, bayaran mo buwis nito kahit wala ka pang trabaho. kung ayaw natin sa buwis, sa saudi tayo tumira. lol

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Filgert on November 27, 2013, 09:26:01 PM

Bayad naman si pacman ng buwis sa pilipinas.ang hinihingi ng bir katibayan na nagbayad sya sa irs.kaya duda kong gugustuhin nya tumira sa saudi dahil nagbabayad sya dito.


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 27, 2013, 09:28:14 PM

its not selective. nagkataon lang na naibalita ng ABS CBN at ng iba pang network. pero kung bubungkalin natin ang mga nakabinbing kaso against mga hindi nabayad ng tamang buwis eh mahihilo ka sa dami. mga senador at dating senador. mga malalaking tao sa business community. mga celebreties at tv personalities. mga kawani ng gobyerno at maging mga ordinaryong mamamayan na may mga malalaking lupain. HINDI LANG NABABALITA. alam mo naman sa panahon ngayon, maibalita lang ultimo pag utot ng presidente eh big news na lalo sa social media tulad ng facebook.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Filgert on November 27, 2013, 09:30:06 PM

Siguro nga sir dahil sa kasikatan ni pacman kaya mukang selective.at siguro nga wala kasing nababalitang malalaking businessmen o politiko na na nahold ang pera.hehehe siguro lang din ayaw ko ke henares kaya ako kumakampi ako ke pacman hehehe.


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: hazmoore on November 27, 2013, 09:35:08 PM

ganito na ba talaga sa atin...

pagpinaghirapan mo ang perang pinagtrabahuhan mo, sa larangan ng sports o ano man, ihohold nila kahit alam nila kung saan galing, bugbog ang inabot ng tao tapos hohold lang nila....

kung si PACMAN ginanito, what more tayong mga maliliit kung gugustuhin nila...
it's more fun in the philippines

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 27, 2013, 09:38:23 PM

well its not about kanino kakampi. maybe its time na rin naman na maging neutral tayong mga pinoy. kasi ng dahil sa kampi kampi na yan lalo lang nagkakagulo. i am a pacman fan. may mga jersey at jackets pa nga ako ni idol eh. sinusuot ko ang mga yun kapag may laban sya. pero bir is just doing their job. kahit si napoles may nakabinbing tax evation. kahit ako noon napadalhan ng summon kasi daw mali ang nakasaad sa ITR ko samantalang 11,000 a month lang naman ang sahod ko noon sa DOH. ibigay mo lang tamang dokumento na hinahanap nila then i aabswelto ka nila or else ang next sahod mo mapupunta sa kanila. dito sa canada kahit 5 cents na lang ang kulang mo hahabulin pa rin nila kahit sino ka pa. my point is...comply with the rule of law. tyak makakalusot ka rin.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 27, 2013, 09:43:19 PM

Quote from: hazmoore on November 27, 2013, 09:35:08 PM

ganito na ba talaga sa atin...

pagpinaghirapan mo ang perang pinagtrabahuhan mo, sa larangan ng sports o ano man, ihohold nila kahit alam nila kung saan galing, bugbog ang inabot ng tao tapos hohold lang nila....

kung si PACMAN ginanito, what more tayong mga maliliit kung gugustuhin nila...
it's more fun in the philippines

truth is...mas maraming maliliit na mamamayan ang hinahabol ng BIR. example na lang lupa ng lolo ko na hindi nabayaran ang buwis sa loob ng 10 years kasi hindi namin alam na may lupa pa pala sya doon sa lugar na yun. umabot ng halos 80,000 ang bayarin kasama na ang surchargces. or else kukunin nila ang lupa.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Itachi101 on November 27, 2013, 11:22:41 PM

pulitka lang talaga yan
malas lang ni manny
partido siya ni binay :-\

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: IORI™ on November 28, 2013, 04:16:24 AM

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repost:

"Ang pera kong ginarnish ng BIR ay hindi po nakaw at hindi po PDAF o DAP. Ito po ay galing sa lahat ng suntok, bugbog, pawis at dugo na tiniis ko sa boxing." - Manny Pacquiao

 Oo nga naman...yung mga kinasuhan na ng Plunder hindi pa rin napi-freeze mga accounts, nakakapagbyahe pa nga sa labas ng bansa.

 Ang husay talaga ng gobyerno natin. Kapag mandarambong at kawatan ka sa gobyerno marami kang kakampi...sympre...crooks este birds with the same feather fvck together!

 But wait...hindi kaya isa na naman itong cover up para matabunan ang isyu ni Napoles? dahil malapit na matukoy kung sino talaga ang mga dapat patawan ng kaparusahan?

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Prime™ on November 28, 2013, 05:01:27 AM

He should pay the proper taxes cause it's the law. Is it fair na mag bayad siya dito ng exorbitant amount kahit na hindi naman niya dito kinita yan at wala naman kinalaman ang gobyerno dito at lalong lalo na ang BIR sa pag yaman niya? That one I'm not too sure about.

If he didn't pay the proper taxes sa US, malamang swift reprimand ang abutin niya. Ang alam ko super ang higpit ng IRS so you really can't joke around with your taxes there. Remember, Al Capone the mobster kingpin's downfall was tax evasion.

Puro tax, income tax, real estate tax, donor's tax? (Wtf) Value added tax so and and so forth.

For a third world country andami nating nirerequire sa mga mamamayan natin, and yet what do we provide in return? Sulit ba? Give yourself a week to watch the news to see what's happening, ask yourself sulit nga ba?

I'm not saying don't pay taxes, sa kangkungan tayo pulutin lahat niyan, pero I cannot hide my disappointment and irritation when I hear these tax attack dogs mouthing off their holier than thou stint and yet it is common knowledge how corrupt they are, and how our money ends up in Napoles' bath tub.

So much money is floating around ano? So what's happening to our tax money? BIR is truly an attack dog, and yes one user is right, kahit maliliit hinahabol niyang mga yan.

Sometimes imbis na makatulong, these guys are directly responsible bakit may mga hindi umaasenso at walang trabaho kakahabol, doon sa ibang mga maliliit. So pardon me if I'm not too keen and excited with what Henares has to say.

Usually I change the channel when I see these guys on TV. My BS threshold is kinda low.

I don't know much about this issue, I'm sure both of them are over reacting in some way or another. Pero 2 billion in taxes? Wow.

Anyway, sabi nga nila;

Do you know why the Government hates crooks? Cause they hate the competition.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: j4kst0n3 on November 28, 2013, 11:38:53 AM

Ang trabaho ng BIR ay mangolekta ng buwis. Lahat ng kumita ng pera, nagmana ng kayamanan, nabigyan ng donasyon, nanalo sa casino at kung anuman pang paraan ng pagkakaroon ng yaman ay dapat magbayad ng buwis.

Hindi trabaho ng BIR ang bantayan kung paano ginagastos ng pamahalaan lalo na ang ehekutibo kung paano ginagastos ang pera ng pamahalaan.

Trabaho at obligasyon n taumbayan na bantayan ang pamahalaan kung saan na pupunta ang pera ng bayan.

Kapag may duda ang BIR sa ITR mo, padadalhan ka ng sulat / assessment. Tahimik na ginagawa ito kasi administrative function ito. A citizen may ignore this letter / assessment at his own risk. 3x ka nilang padadalhan bago sila gumawa ng hakbang para legally ma-garnish ang ari-arian mo. Yan ang nasa batas.

Bakit umabot sa ganito ang kaso ni Pacquiao?

Simple lang. He ignored the BIR letters.

Kung noon pa man eh sinagot na ni Pacquiao ang BIR at naiprisinta na ang mga OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS from IRS, tulad ng Certificate of income Taxes Withheld, hindi ang certification ng Top Rank, hindi na sana lalala ang sitwasyon.

Hindi dahil sikat ka, nagbigay ka ng karangalan sa bansa, o pulitiko ka, ay bibigyan ka na ng special treatment. Actually, para sa BIR, mas lalo ka pang bubusisiin kasi sila man ay binabantayan kung sila ba ay magbibigay ng special treatment sa mga sikat.

Kaya wag nating sisihin ang BIR. Bagkus ay maging leksiyon sa lahat ang pangyayaring ito.

Oo, maaaring magamit ang mga ahensya mg pamahalaan para I-harass ang kanilang mga kalaban sa pulitika. Kaya mas lalo kang sumunod sa batas at mga patakaran para hindi ka maging ehemplo.


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on November 30, 2013, 07:07:26 AM

Quote from: j4kst0n3 on November 28, 2013, 11:38:53 AM

Kaya wag nating sisihin ang BIR. Bagkus ay maging leksiyon sa lahat ang pangyayaring ito.
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korek!!!! maging aral sana ito para sa lahat dahil kahit gaaano ka kurakot ang pilipinas kung ikaw ay pilipino at may kinikita ka, obligasyon mong magbayad ng buwis.
 sa mga nagbabayad ng buwis alam nila ito.
 sa mga umiwas magbayad ng buwis alam nila ito.
 sa mga hindi pa nakakaranas magbayad ng buwis at makaltasan ng buwis, wala kayong alam dito.

oo masakit sa bulsa kung maningil ang BIR pero sinusunod lamang nila ang nakasaad sa batas. ANG BUWIS. buwis na patuloy na itinataas ng mga MAMBUBUTAS na niluklok natin sa kongreso at senado.

maraming nagsasabi na alisin ang buwis. sana nga. pero kung walang buwis, saan kukuha ng pera ang bayan? ano ang ipapasahod sa mga guro, pulis, nurse, duktor, huwes, pampublikong abogado, at marami pang iba. saan kukuha ng pondo para sa kalsada, ospital, gamot, at mga serbisyo publiko. oo napupunta sa kurakot ang karamihan pero nakikita din naman natin ang pinatutunguhan ng mas malaking halaga. ang bayad natin sa LRT at MRT, buwis ang pumupuno sa kakulangan. mga bala ng baril na ginagamit laban sa mga NPA at rebeldeng grupo sa mindanao. maraming napupuntahan ang buwis na akala natin ay MASAMA.

punto dito, HINDI kasalanan ng BIR kung mataas ng buwis. hindi kasalanan ng BIR kung nasisingil si pacman. hindi kasalananng BIR kung nakukurakot ang buwis. TAYO ang may kasalanan kung bakit tumataas ang buwis. tayo ang may kasalanan kung bakit malaki ang nakukurakot sa buwis.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Dimmu Borgir on November 30, 2013, 09:11:11 AM

Sa BIR di ka lulusot..

Hal. bumili ka ng PUJ tapos nalaman mo pagkatapos mong bilhin na yung binilhan mo di pala nagbabayad ng buwis...

Ikaw ang magbabayad nun kasama na ang surcharge.. Surcharge o yung penalty mo ang nakakaiyak. Yun ang magpapalobo sa bayarin mo.

Kung di ka naman magbabayad ng BIR, kolorum ka kasi sa LTO, hahanapan ka ng BIR Certificate..

Kaya isang payo lang, hanapan ng BIR documents kung bibili ka ng properties para di ka magsisi sa bandang huli..

Ang BIR mahigpit, kahit nga sari sari store sinisingil ng buwis, si Pacquiao pa kaya...

Magbayad ng tama para iwas sakit ng ulo. Wag gayahin si Pacquaio na nagpabaya tapos sa bandang huli eh iiyak iyak kasi napakalaki na pala ng bayaran.

Yan din ang aabutin natin pag ginaya natin si Pacquaio.
 

 
 

 

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: radicalerror on December 04, 2013, 12:14:07 AM

tpos saan po mapuputa ung buwis na ibibigay natin...  :o

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on December 04, 2013, 01:50:42 AM

saan mapupunta is a common question. sagot: sa kaban ng bayan at sa bulsa ng humahawak sa bayan.

eto naman ang tanong ko: saan ka mapupunta kapag di ka nagbayad ng buwis?

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Ozone on December 04, 2013, 05:06:14 AM

kailangan pa bang i-publish ng BIR sa media ang mga taong inaakusahan nilang hindi nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. marami na rin akong nabalitaang celebrity na inakusahang hindi nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. eh sa palagay ko naman, ang mga taong walang alam o kakaunti lang ang alam sa taxation  ay gumagamit ng accountant para asikasuhin ang kanilang responsibilidad lalo na ang pinag uusapan ay hindi lang libong salapi.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: Dimmu Borgir on December 04, 2013, 09:24:21 AM

walang pinipili ang bir pag may bayaran ka sa kanila, sisingilin ka kahit anong mangyari..

di yan katulad ng simbahan na magdasal ka lang ng aba ginoong maria e patatawarin ka na.. dyan kahit umiyak ka pa, magbabayad ka pa rin..

di ka nga lang mag issue ng resibo, two years imprisonment na ang penalty,

nakalimutan mo lang maglista ng income mo sa blue book, penalty ka pag nahuli ka nila..

yun pa kayang katulad ng kay pacquaio?

kaya mali yung sinasabi ng karamihan na namimili ang BIR...

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: j4kst0n3 on December 04, 2013, 12:37:20 PM

Quote from: Ozone on December 04, 2013, 05:06:14 AM

kailangan pa bang i-publish ng BIR sa media ang mga taong inaakusahan nilang hindi nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. marami na rin akong nabalitaang celebrity na inakusahang hindi nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. eh sa palagay ko naman, ang mga taong walang alam o kakaunti lang ang alam sa taxation  ay gumagamit ng accountant para asikasuhin ang kanilang responsibilidad lalo na ang pinag uusapan ay hindi lang libong salapi.

Confidential ang mga assessment ng BIR.

Hindi ito ipinamamalita dahil nga merong "due process". Ang sinuman na mapadalhan ng assessment ay binibigyan ng sapat na panahon para sagutin ang katanungan ng BIR.

3 beses ka nila padadalhan ng sulat. Kaya meron ka ding 3 pagkakataon na itama ang records ng BIR sa pamamagitan ng pagsumite ng mga dokumento na magpapasinungaling sa kanilang assessment.

Kapag hindi mo sinagot ang mga sulat ng BIR, magiging pinal ang kanilang assessment.

Ang pagkakamali ni Pacman, hindi pinansin ang mga assessment na pinadala ng BIR. Ang kampo mismo ni Pacman ang unang nag-complain sa media ng maging final ang assessment.

Hindi pa rin gumawa ng hakbang para i-apela ang final assessment kaya ang next step ay garnishment.

Sa nagtatanong kung saan mapupunta ang nakolektang buwis, labas na ito sa kaso ni Pacman. Ibang isyu na po iyon na dapat din natin bantayan bilang taumbayan pero hindi iyon dapat maging hadlang para magbayad ng tamang buwis ang lahat ng taong may kinita.

Simple lamang ang mga katanungan dito:

1. Nagbayad ba ng tamang buwis si Pacman na angkop sa lahat ng mga kinita nya?

2. Nagsumite ba sya ng kumpletong dokumento na magpapatunay na nagbayad sya ng tamang buwis?

3. May dalawang laban sya noong 2009, kay Ricky Hatton at Miguel Cotto. Marami din syang mga endorsements. Bakit Php 50,000,000 lang ang nakadeklarang kinita nya noong 2009?

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: cezky09 on December 04, 2013, 01:01:09 PM

I think the BIR is doing their job tama din kayo na selective at may halo pulitika. What if nasa liberal party si Pacman at hindi sa kalaban partido? At ang isang pinagtatakhan kasi ng BIR bakit from hundred of million na binabayad niya biglang bumaba sa less than 10million kung kailan siya naging congressman at tumaas ang net worth niya.


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Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: karlkutu on December 09, 2013, 03:22:11 PM

ganyan ang reaksyon ng mga taong di nakikinig paliwanag ng mga taong sangkot. eto po ang alam ko: ang tax law natin ay nag sasabing kung ikaw ay resident citizen lahat ng income mo from witin and without the country ay subject sa income tax. Hmmmm parang unfair ba? kasi may bayad ka sa ibang bansa bayad ka ulit dito? Ibig sabihin may double taxation in its loose sense. Kaya may tax treaty ang pinas and us na nagsasabi na pag ung binayaran nya na tax sa us ay lesser dun sa tax na pinapataw natin dito sa pinas babayaran nya yung kulang dito sa pinas. Next...sino ba dapat ang kumuha ng mga documento sa IRS para patunayan na nagbayad na si pacman? Hmmmmm, sa pag kakaalam ko inherit na power ng estado ang pag p[ataw ng tax sa mga citizen, kaya may tinatawag tayong pay as you file. ibig sabihin punta ka sa bir self assessed ang income tax ibig sabihin nito punta ka mag bayad ng tax mo with all the proper documents supporting your claim for deductions, exemptions and the like. Hay pinakamahirap na subject sa college of law ang taxation. pero mas mahirap ipaliwanag sa mga tao na ang pinapakinggan ay mga taong sikat. 

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: karlkutu on December 09, 2013, 03:28:34 PM

Quote from: j4kst0n3 on December 04, 2013, 12:37:20 PM

Confidential ang mga assessment ng BIR.

Hindi ito ipinamamalita dahil nga merong "due process". Ang sinuman na mapadalhan ng assessment ay binibigyan ng sapat na panahon para sagutin ang katanungan ng BIR.

3 beses ka nila padadalhan ng sulat. Kaya meron ka ding 3 pagkakataon na itama ang records ng BIR sa pamamagitan ng pagsumite ng mga dokumento na magpapasinungaling sa kanilang assessment.

Kapag hindi mo sinagot ang mga sulat ng BIR, magiging pinal ang kanilang assessment.

Ang pagkakamali ni Pacman, hindi pinansin ang mga assessment na pinadala ng BIR. Ang kampo mismo ni Pacman ang unang nag-complain sa media ng maging final ang assessment.

Hindi pa rin gumawa ng hakbang para i-apela ang final assessment kaya ang next step ay garnishment.

Sa nagtatanong kung saan mapupunta ang nakolektang buwis, labas na ito sa kaso ni Pacman. Ibang isyu na po iyon na dapat din natin bantayan bilang taumbayan pero hindi iyon dapat maging hadlang para magbayad ng tamang buwis ang lahat ng taong may kinita.

Simple lamang ang mga katanungan dito:

1. Nagbayad ba ng tamang buwis si Pacman na angkop sa lahat ng mga kinita nya?

2. Nagsumite ba sya ng kumpletong dokumento na magpapatunay na nagbayad sya ng tamang buwis?

3. May dalawang laban sya noong 2009, kay Ricky Hatton at Miguel Cotto. Marami din syang mga endorsements. Bakit Php 50,000,000 lang ang nakadeklarang kinita nya noong 2009?

Salamat po sa enlightenment. Tama po naging final na yung assesment kasi hindi sya sumasagot. Ngayong nasa CTA na saka sya umaalma. Afford naman nya ng abugado at accountant bakit di nya inayos ito nun pa. 

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on December 10, 2013, 06:07:13 AM

at umaalingasaw ang balita na si pacman ay US GREEN CARD HOLDER? lagot ito kay senator miriam  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: charliehouse on December 21, 2013, 08:15:16 PM

While every person has the legal obligation to pay taxes to the government, every person also has the moral obligation not to pay taxes to a corrupt government. haha

Seriously, Manny should pay his deficit however so as lucio, henry and lopez.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: karlkutu on December 21, 2013, 08:41:57 PM

oh yes. i think manny will go to tax compromise. hehehehe saving face

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: charliehouse on December 26, 2013, 10:23:55 AM

Paying taxes to a corrupt government makes one a contributor to its corruption... ano sa tingin nyo mga babidee.?

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: j4kst0n3 on January 05, 2014, 05:56:01 PM

Quote from: charliehouse on December 26, 2013, 10:23:55 AM

Paying taxes to a corrupt government makes one a contributor to its corruption... ano sa tingin nyo mga babidee.?

Governments, per se, are not corrupt. It is the people running the government who are capable of corruption.

It is the people who are electing known corrupt politicians into government positions.

The corrupt government officials, in turn, appoint their people into positions of influence.

Solution?

Wag ibenta ang boto. Kung alam nang corrupt ang pulitiko, wag nang iboto.

At bantayan ang kaban ng bayan. Kung kuwestiyonable ang mga proyekto, magsumbong at isuplong ang mga taong sangkot dito.

Pag hindi tayo nagbayad ng buwis, kapwa nating taumbayan ang magdudusa.

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: charliehouse on January 06, 2014, 09:21:06 AM

Quote from: j4kst0n3 on January 05, 2014, 05:56:01 PM

Governments, per se, are not corrupt. It is the people running the government who are capable of corruption.

It is the people who are electing known corrupt politicians into government positions.

The corrupt government officials, in turn, appoint their people into positions of influence.

Solution?

Wag ibenta ang boto. Kung alam nang corrupt ang pulitiko, wag nang iboto.

At bantayan ang kaban ng bayan. Kung kuwestiyonable ang mga proyekto, magsumbong at isuplong ang mga taong sangkot dito.

Pag hindi tayo nagbayad ng buwis, kapwa nating taumbayan ang magdudusa.

People vs. System na argument, however if the system itself allows the corruption of such officials in the system then would it not also mean na corrupt rin ang systema kasi hindi ito built against corruption?

Title: Re: Pacquiao: It's earned money, not DAP, PDAF
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on January 06, 2014, 04:14:41 PM

Quote from: charliehouse

People vs. System na argument, however if the system itself allows the corruption of such officials in the system then would it not also mean na corrupt rin ang systema kasi hindi ito built against corruption?

I strongly agree with sir charliehouse.... there is really a problem with the system and the way the BIR says that they don't have responsibility on how the taxes are spent is like saying...."wala kaming pakialam sa buwis na ibinibigay ng taumbayan basta kolekta lang kami ng kolekta".... come on, everybody pay taxes even the government employee pay taxes so how come they said something like this....

I know its not their job but saying something that translate to something's not good to the ears were not the proper words to say especially if you are also working for the government..... Pacquiao case maybe somewhat special but it's not something extra-ordinary that nobody should take aside from the time something like this is building up.... I'm not here for pacman, if he has to answer something he should answer it.... and if the people ask about how the tax were spent then there should be something that breaksdown all the expenses of the government then let the people voice out there concern whether it is reasonable or not.....