well of course yung may teleportation tech , like gokou and Minato , pero kung pure skills na walang extra power , siguro si Kenshin Himura and Killua ??? they have speed built for the kill . . .
Technically, Flash (Barry Allen) is the fastest because he can travel back in time or go in the future through Speed force, and I've seen him running through time and space. (See/Read Flashpoint) He is so fast that he can phase himself and avoid attacks by vibrating his cells at lightspeed. He also can punch at the speed of light.
I have nothing against anime or manga characters pero mas na explain ng maayos ng DC Comics yung overall speed ni Flash and other speedster fictional comic characters sa world nila. In case of Gokou, Ichigo, Minato or any other manga created character, there was no further explanation kung bakit ganun ka bilis. Short distance or long distance, wala e. Hahaha
Mabilis kung sa mabilis si Flash kaya lang parang sobrang exagerated naman..Actually kung skills lang mali pa rin, dahil si The Runner ng Marvel universe ang pinakamabilis consistently (see my previous post) even without magic or whatnot. Jinojogging niya lang ang buong universe on a regular basis. Baka ang ibig mong sabihin ay mundane humans lang, without superhuman modifications (Captain America), genetic mutations (like Quicksilver), and special abilities (Killua).
hindi normal yung skill niya..
Tama si kingjames24.. kung pure skill si kenshin himura at Killua Zoldyck.
mas naaliw akong panoorin yung movements nila kaysa kay flash di mo talaga makita :hi1:
Actually kung skills lang mali pa rin, dahil si The Runner ng Marvel universe ang pinakamabilis consistently (see my previous post) even without magic or whatnot. Jinojogging niya lang ang buong universe on a regular basis. Baka ang ibig mong sabihin ay mundane humans lang, without superhuman modifications (Captain America), genetic mutations (like Quicksilver), and special abilities (Killua).
Kung pure human training mabilis talaga si Kenshin at Soujiro ng Rurouni Kenshin, pati na ang mga One Piece characters na well versed sa Soru ng Rokushiki Martial Arts. Pero ang fastest mundane characters pa rin ay sina... Rock Lee at Maito Gai!
di mo rin masasabi na mundane ang character ni rock lee at gai kasi may chakra eh... kagaya lang ng ki sa dragonball...Yep may chakra sila... which is irrelevant since hindi naman necessarily ginagamit to move fast.
Yep may chakra sila... which is irrelevant since hindi naman necessarily ginagamit to move fast.
1. Most Taijutsu are established to only require stamina (or physical energy). Even Noon Tiger and Evening Elephant are explicitly chakra-less jutsus.
2. Heck, "Fast Movement"(TM) isn't even a taijutsu, although being a taijutsu master means it's usually a requisite (along with strength and agility training). There're no chakra-use related to increasing speed outside ninjutsu/senjutsu, and the only chakra-use related to feet was for climbing walls.
Basically what you saw when Lee dropped his weights in the Gaara fight was his default run speed. When he was 13, to boot
Yes, chakra is not necessary to move fast ORDINARILY (note the case of raikage), however it is worthy to note that in ordinary state kakashi can move as fast as gai (remember their race?) so para maging super fast si guy, kailangan nyang iopen a number of gates from The Eight Gates, the chakra pathway system, now if physical energy is the only thing that it is needed then why does it require for one to open a gate from the CHAKRA PATHWAY SYSTEM?I was talking about the manga (canon), so some anime filler doesn't count in my book, not to mention that Kakashi is really no slouch in the speed department either anyway. And, yes, unlocking certain Gates DO increase speed, but I wasn't talking about that. Rather, we can see from Rock Lee's base-form speed feats (e.g. v. Gaara, v. Haku) alone that they're still ridiculously fast without that (and Gai is faster, based on the Databooks that are of course canon unlike the anime).
I was talking about the manga (canon), so some anime filler doesn't count in my book, not to mention that Kakashi is really no slouch in the speed department either anyway. And, yes, unlocking certain Gates DO increase speed, but I wasn't talking about that. Rather, we can see from Rock Lee's base-form speed feats (e.g. v. Gaara, v. Haku) alone that they're still ridiculously fast without that (and Gai is faster, based on the Databooks that are of course canon unlike the anime).
regarding sa speed ... who are the fastest anime or cartoon hero nyo mga ka PT?
for me .. goku, the flash and superman ..
Then it is not within the scope of this topic since TS had already limited the scope o this topic. To quote:Meh. If you want to be pedantic, Gai and Lee ARE still anime characters. TS didn't specify where the speed feats need to be taken from, which is why there are plenty of Flash->SpeedForce posts every once in a while.
The topic is clearly of anime and not of manga.
Meh. If you want to be pedantic, Gai and Lee ARE still anime characters. TS didn't specify where the speed feats need to be taken from, which is why there are plenty of Flash->SpeedForce posts every once in a while.
Yep they are anime characters however they are also manga characters. They are only anime characters if you are making a reference of them from an anime.I don't subscribe to imaginary rules, unfortunately. Feel free to use that logic, though.
I don't subscribe to imaginary rules, unfortunately. Feel free to use that logic, though.
then tell me can a manga character be an anime character even if walang anime adaptation ang isang manga?No, and that's still irrelevant to your earlier post, because TS didn't specifically say where a speed feat should be taken from. The only relevant question based on TS parameters is: Are Lee and Gai characters from an anime show?
No, and that's still irrelevant to your earlier post, because TS didn't specifically say where a speed feat should be taken from. The only relevant question based on TS parameters is: Are Lee and Gai characters from an anime show?
Even then...[spoiler]non-life-and-death situations such as casual races aren't the most accurate reference points and they don't necessary reflect a character's top speed (e.g. 1. Superman tagged Flash in a race, 2. Lee's weights-less move speed in the Gaara fight easily tops the speed of Kakashi and Gai from this race, whose speeds as shown as more comparable to generic shinobi movement through forests)
Not to mention that Kakashi is no slouch in the speed department either (he's Gai's rival after all).
So really... I don't see the point of such nitpickings, all of which were flawed anyway,[/spoiler]
Yes and that is the reason anime characters nga thus you should refer to the anime adaptation and not to the manga canon or not it happened. Says what rule?Seriously though, napaka off-tangent na ng points, and just to prove what exactly?
You who told you that casual races aren't the most accurate reference points and they don't necessary reflect a character's top speed? Read my examples and see why. Gai considered their rivalry as a serious one even to the point that he would give himself a penalty for losing any competition against Kakashi.
Seriously though, napaka off-tangent na ng points, and just to prove what exactly?
Dumudugo ilong ko sa inyong dalawa!! Bwahahahaha!!No prob, Ka-PT. Hindi ko na papatulan (wala ata kasing Ignore list sa PT?) kasi ang petty na and derailing the thread, not to mention off-tangent at moving goalposts pa.
No prob, Ka-PT. Hindi ko na papatulan (wala ata kasing Ignore list sa PT?) kasi ang petty na and derailing the thread, not to mention off-tangent at moving goalposts pa.
Mahirap talaga pag hindi ayos yung reading comprehension ng kausap. (Hindi nga napansin na may in-quote reply, kahit Bolded for emphasis na. Mukhang hindi rin binasa ang previous posts ko ng mabuti based on later replies.)
Hmmmmm kay goku pa rin ako hehe mas bibilis pa ba mga powers nila sa instant transmission nya?
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