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Title: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: raisingsun on August 20, 2013, 11:52:17 PM

mga kaPT comment kung ano masasabi nyo sa statement ng butihing senador....

MANILA – Lawmakers have no responsibility to verify the existence of non-governmental organizations (NGO) that receive their Priority Development Assistance Fund (PDAF) or pork barrel, a multimillion-peso amount allocated to them every year that's now the subject of a corruption scandal.

This is according to Senator Jinggoy Estrada, one of five senators whose PDAF reportedly went to bogus organizations created by alleged scammer Janet Lim Napoles.

Estrada said it is the Department of Agriculture's job to check NGOs receiving pork barrel funds.

"It is not up to the senators to determine whether an NGO is bogus or not," he told reporters on Thursday.

"Alangan naman na kami pa ang magsasabi na, 'Uy, bogus 'yan.' How will we know?" Estrada added that lawmakers only endorse NGOs, and that they do so in good faith.

He said he himself he himself would like to get to the bottom of the P10-billion pork barrel scam, despite being implicated in it.

"Gusto ko lang malaman sa mga kinauukulan kung saan talaga napunta 'yong para sa ating magsasaka dahil ang ating mga magsasaka, mga kababayan nating mahirap, sila mismo ang nagre-request sa aking tanggapan na sila ay mabigyan ng ayuda," said Estrada.

Meanwhile, Estrada said Napoles was his "acquaintance," and they only met during parents' meetings in school, where his daughter and her nephew were classmates.

He clarified that he never had business dealings with Napoles and did not know if the PDAF endorsements he signed before were actually for her.

"I wouldn't have known," he said.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: payazoxiii on August 21, 2013, 09:37:52 AM

whew puro nmn ganyan e puro nlang excuses ala n ba bago?

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: jboyzxxx on August 21, 2013, 02:14:27 PM

paulet ulet na lang mga pulitiko sa atin.. nakakainis... >:(

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Itachi101 on August 21, 2013, 05:27:52 PM

same story as always
sad sad :'(

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on August 22, 2013, 03:44:47 PM

mataas ang respeto ko kay Jinggoy pero this time, i will not agree doon sa sinabi niya kahit pa totoong wala siyang alam sa pangyayari dahil maaring naloko lang siya eh bilang isang public servant, he should not just give a very huge blindly na hindi niya alam kung totoong ito ay nagagamit sa intended purpose na sinabi sa kanya....
 :-\

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: xmen123 on August 22, 2013, 08:12:49 PM

ang palusot ng mga politiko, kahit sinong politiko talaga madumi yan kahit may nagagawa pa

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: monde8 on August 22, 2013, 11:02:13 PM

Negative din ako sa sinasabi ni Jinggoy. Who in the right sense of mind would give funds to something that they don't even know if it really exists? Like come on, you should know where you are spending the taxes which were hardly earned by the people that you are serving. Or if indeed na totoo man sinasabi niya, ganung lang ba talaga ang systema na kahit hindi mo alam kung saan pupunta ang pera eh magbibigay ka lang ng magbibigay?

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: EagleEye on August 23, 2013, 02:29:51 PM

This is complete BS. Kailangan na talaga palitan sistema so govt. natin

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Asiong Salonga on August 24, 2013, 12:18:52 PM

Ang gagaling nyong ipahiya si corona masmasahol pa pala kayo

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: GoodnightGuy on August 24, 2013, 12:25:05 PM

ungas ka... samantalang di mo kasi pera ang pinamimigay mo kaya wala kang pakialam kung san mapupunta eh. or dahil kasi alam mo kung san mapupunta? sa bulsa mo!

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: bohica on August 24, 2013, 12:26:37 PM

Quote from: GoodnightGuy on August 24, 2013, 12:25:05 PM

ungas ka... samantalang di mo kasi pera ang pinamimigay mo kaya wala kang pakialam kung san mapupunta eh. or dahil kasi alam mo kung san mapupunta? sa bulsa mo!

Tumpak!  Palibhasa hindi mo pera!  Pangit ka na, gago ka pa Jinggoy.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: yakitako on August 24, 2013, 12:43:31 PM

Kapal ng mukha nito.  Wala silang obligation to look into the existence of bogus Foundations and NGOs?  Bakit yung mga secret bank accounts, nakakalkal nila?  Palibhasa kasi, sasabit sila dito kaya ganyan ang attitude nila sa issue na ito.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Ozymandias on August 24, 2013, 01:06:29 PM

Labo ni pareng Jinggoy! Di sila obliged to check the NGOs pero gusto nya malaman kung saan nila ginagamit...ano ba talaga pare   ???

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: TonyStark on August 24, 2013, 02:19:08 PM

Hindi nman cguro tama kung sabihin mong di mo alam. pperma k lang ba ng isang endorsement na di mo alam kung kanino galing?

Baka tama ang hinala ng taong bayan sayo.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Prime™ on August 24, 2013, 06:56:40 PM

That's the point. Hindi nyo alam.

Why do you guys have the money? It's in your job description to make laws, so I don't see bakit kelangan dumaan sa kamay nila ang pera. Doesn't make any sense.

First law they should pass? Ban political dynasties. Do it, and maniniwala akong may nagbabago na nga. Why? Maraming tatamaan. From top to bottom.


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Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: fayt on August 24, 2013, 07:03:43 PM

pero sino ba ang dapat na "may alam" kung saan napupunta ang pdaf?

impossible kasi na tanggapin na lang na ganun ganun na hindi alam kung bogus ba napupunta ang mga pdaf nila...

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Prime™ on August 24, 2013, 07:20:38 PM

Quote from: fayt on August 24, 2013, 07:03:43 PM

pero sino ba ang dapat na "may alam" kung saan napupunta ang pdaf?

impossible kasi na tanggapin na lang na ganun ganun na hindi alam kung bogus ba napupunta ang mga pdaf nila...

Bro, magkano ginagastos ng mga yan tuwing election? Magkano monthly salary ng mga yan? Dun palang olats na.

Honestly I have no idea anong pagbabago ba ang pwedeng gawin dito sa bansa natin. Parang sa lahat nalang ng sulok na pwede gawan ng kalokohan, talagang gagawan ng kalokohan. Mapa small time na kotong cops na pa lima-limang daan, hanggang sa fixer sa LTO na pa isa-isang libo, hangang kela Mayor, Governor, Congressman, Senator so on and so forth na hindi lang basta Milyon, kundi Bilyon-bilyon na pala ang pinag uusapan.

Ang nakakaasar dito, ala naman inosente eh. Ibinoto yan eh. Kaya yeah, we're f*cked. Alam nitong mga ito ang kiliti ng mga nakararaming botante kaya paulit ulit, ng paulit ulit ang situation.

They have the magic formula to woo the unthinking majority.

Yung mga nobody na tumatakbo na gustong maisayos ang bayan? No chance in hell they could win. Pano naman mananalo ang isang Joe Schmo vs itong mga batikan na ito na kagagaling kumanta at umindak sa entablado at naka unlimited money cheat pa?

Mapapa iling ka nalang talaga pare.


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Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: OpenYun on August 24, 2013, 11:42:46 PM

Anak ng Pu_a! sino namang matinong tao ang magbibigay ng malaking halaga na hindi naman nya alam kung saan mapupunta at kung saan gagamitin. tsktsktsk!

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Marcus on August 25, 2013, 12:16:45 PM

Yan malamang ang magiging palusot nila.in case na magkabukuhan, hehe

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: bohica on August 25, 2013, 12:26:00 PM

Quote from: Marcus on August 25, 2013, 12:16:45 PM

Yan malamang ang magiging palusot nila.in case na magkabukuhan, hehe

Marcus, hindi palusot ang kabobohan.  Mga simpleng pinoy nga sinisigurado kung saan napupunta ang kakapiranggot na perang pinagtrabahuhan nila.  Yun pa kayang mga hinayupak na mga pulitiko na hindi naman pinaghirapan ang mga salaping nilulustay.  Tanga lang ang magbibigay ng ganyang rason.  Mas tanga ang maniniwala.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: josemanueldelacruz on August 27, 2013, 12:56:26 PM

ganyan naman palagi eh. hindi alam ang palusot, pero kung titingnan natin, they should be responsible kung kanino nila ibibigay. parang ok lang pala sa isang senador ang magrelease ng milyo milyon kahit ng di alam kung bogus ang recipient? kalokohan!

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Prime™ on August 27, 2013, 06:14:53 PM

Was reading a newspaper kanina. Sabi daw ni Drilon might as well dissolve congress. Tsk tsk hanep talaga, hindi kayang pigilan ang pagka butthurt.

Who the f... Votes for this guy anyway? Wtf?


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Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: karlkutu on August 28, 2013, 10:22:39 AM

pinag katiwala sayo ng byan yuing pero tapos di mo lang kilalanin yung pag bibigyan mo. anu yan 5pesos lang na ibigay sa pulubi? responsibilidad mo yan!

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Ungas123 on August 29, 2013, 10:22:30 AM

Isa pa tong unggoy na to na dapat di binoboto


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Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: yanzmyk on August 29, 2013, 04:07:31 PM

Isa pa tong hunghang na ito eh. I'm sure eh pag nanglimos yan ng piso sa batang kalye iniisip nya pa kung ipang-susugal ba nung bata yung pera or gagamitin talaga sa mabuti. Bakit naman yung milyon milyong piso eh hindi man lang siguraduhin na napunta sa tama? Ano ba naman yan? Sorry ser ha? Busy ba? Check check naman minsan pag may time...

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: dennis magtulis on August 29, 2013, 04:36:05 PM

(http://images.gmanews.tv/v3/webpics/v3/2013/08/640_2013_08_29_12_24_18.jpg)

"bahala kau jan uwi na lang ako,,diko obligasyon mag check ng mga NGO at wala rin akong panahon sa imbestigasyon niyo" JInggoy unggoy ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: amy2004 on August 29, 2013, 06:16:06 PM

Paano ba to? Kung totoong hindi nya alam na peke ang NGO ni Napoles ibig sabihin hindi sya nag check or nag conduct nang due diligence, in short nag pabaya sya! di ba ang tawag natin sa mga taong ganon ay Tanga.....
Pero kung alam nya! dalawang bagay naman ang itatawag sa kanya, dahil alam nya pero ibinigay pa rin nya ang PDAF nya kay Napoles pero wala syang tinangap.... di ba ang tawag natin doon ay Hangal.
Pero kung may tinanggap sya, tawag naman natin doon ay corrupt sya!

Ergo three years from now Election uli... so para hindi tumaas ang Blood Pressure natin huwag iboto ang mga kandidatong Tanga, Hangal at Kurakot!
 

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: Coopernilingus on August 29, 2013, 06:55:37 PM

Obvious na nagpapalusot lang itong jinggoy


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Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: raisingsun on August 30, 2013, 04:14:56 AM

ang laki pa naman ng respeto ko noon kay jinggoy, ngayon nawala parang bula..........

bwiset.... tamaan ka sana ng kidlat......
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 >:(

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: theshepherd on August 30, 2013, 08:16:40 AM

Sayang ka Sen. Jinggoy.
Pati ikaw Sen. Revilla.
Si papa johnny matagal nako walang respeto sayo.

Peace out!

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: bossingjom on August 30, 2013, 10:05:13 AM

Ang babaw ng rason ni jinggoy! I used to donate notebooks sa elementary school na pinapasukan ko nun at sa ibang groups but I made sure na napupunta yun sa tamang mga beneficiaries. Kaunti lang na halaga nag trace pa ako. Si jinggoy at karamahan ng mambabatas dito sa pinas SHOULD have check yung beneficiaries (NGO at some individuals) na tumanggap ng pundo ng gobyerno. Hindi sa kanila yung funds na yun they should have check them kasi nilagay natin sila dyan kasi pinagkakatiwalaan natin sila. I bet there is a case for this BETRAYING PUBLIC TRUST (im not well verse on law).

Dapat na talaga tanggalin yung PDAF and other funds sa Legislative Body ng pilipinas (FYI: SENATE at CONGRESS) at mag stick na lang sila sa talagang charter ng batas para sa kanila: GUMAWA NG BATAS. Kung kailangan nila ng funds for a research and survey to help draft of a law (for now hindi talaga nila ginagawa ito) they will make a motion for Dept of Budget and management to do so. Hindi na yung bahala na sila paano nila gamitin ang pondo.

Title: Re: Jinggoy: We're not obliged to check NGOs getting pork
Post by: eragon26969 on September 15, 2013, 10:41:09 PM

What an idiot!


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