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Title: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 10, 2013, 08:21:52 PM
Mga bro/sis, I'm planning to buy a second hand car. Pano ba sistema nun? Halimbawa registered pa rin sya sa current owner until 2014, naipapa transfer ba yun registration nun? Any more tips that I should look out for to be sure na legal mapapasakin yun sasakyan?
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: icE_boaT on August 10, 2013, 09:40:48 PM
: bro, consider this comments:
   1. ok kung naka-registered pa until 2014, pabor syo yan..
   2. not necessary na ilipat mo sa pangalan mo, gagastos ka lang, as long as na nasa
       iyo ang deed of sale, OR/CR ng sasakyan at current registration.
   3. Kahit ipalagay mo yan sa pangalan mo, still naka-slash lang name mo, hindi
       aalisin ang pangalan ng 1st owner.
   4. kung may kilala ka sa LTO, pa-check mo lang history ng sasakyan, for clearance.
   5. things to check: (kung wala ka idea sa registration, might be wala ka rin idea
                                 sa kondisyon ng sasakyan. this i suggest: )
      a. Check Engine kung hindi nag-ooverheat
      b. Check engine oil condition/ ATF/steering/ break fluids..
      c. Check suspension (ilalim), wheel bearing, racker arms, brake disc/ pads
      d. Check Aircon (very important), compressor, fan belts, bearing, freon charge,
          fan/ blowers. (pag di gumagana o lumalamig ang aircon at sinabi ng seller
          na freon lang kulang ay huwag kang maniwala, might be sira ang compressor.
      e. Electrical, check fuses kung gumagana lahat. check mo sa dash kung
          umiilaw yung oil or battery icon. (may problema pag umilaw yung 1 or 2.)
      f. Check radiator kung walang leak, yung mga hose baka may tapal lang, radiator
         cap kung sealed pa, water pump, (basta dapat good flowing ang tubig)
      g. Check all wheels (specially yung tubeless) , baka may punit na at may strips na
          nakalabas. check alignment of wheel- should not be negative nor positive.
      h. that is all the basics... be cautious lalo na kung 90's model pa.
    **** most important.... not drive safely... DRIVE KIND & HUMBLE...thanks..
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: fayt on August 10, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
: bro, consider this comments:
   1. ok kung naka-registered pa until 2014, pabor syo yan..
   2. not necessary na ilipat mo sa pangalan mo, gagastos ka lang, as long as na nasa
       iyo ang deed of sale, OR/CR ng sasakyan at current registration.
   3. Kahit ipalagay mo yan sa pangalan mo, still naka-slash lang name mo, hindi
       aalisin ang pangalan ng 1st owner.
   4. kung may kilala ka sa LTO, pa-check mo lang history ng sasakyan, for clearance.
   5. things to check: (kung wala ka idea sa registration, might be wala ka rin idea
                                 sa kondisyon ng sasakyan. this i suggest: )
      a. Check Engine kung hindi nag-ooverheat
      b. Check engine oil condition/ ATF/steering/ break fluids..
      c. Check suspension (ilalim), wheel bearing, racker arms, brake disc/ pads
      d. Check Aircon (very important), compressor, fan belts, bearing, freon charge,
          fan/ blowers. (pag di gumagana o lumalamig ang aircon at sinabi ng seller
          na freon lang kulang ay huwag kang maniwala, might be sira ang compressor.
      e. Electrical, check fuses kung gumagana lahat. check mo sa dash kung
          umiilaw yung oil or battery icon. (may problema pag umilaw yung 1 or 2.)
      f. Check radiator kung walang leak, yung mga hose baka may tapal lang, radiator
         cap kung sealed pa, water pump, (basta dapat good flowing ang tubig)
      g. Check all wheels (specially yung tubeless) , baka may punit na at may strips na
          nakalabas. check alignment of wheel- should not be negative nor positive.
      h. that is all the basics... be cautious lalo na kung 90's model pa.
    **** most important.... not drive safely... DRIVE KIND & HUMBLE...thanks..


Whooooaaaa... Very helpful tips sir ice... Karma po kayo.. hanep sa reminders.

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Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 10, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
Thanks ice_boat for the very informative reply. You even put additional information about car condition. Pero may naisip na ko shortcut dun, magsasama na lang ako marunong tumingin ng car.
Anyway, receive your first Karma point from me. Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on August 12, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
when buying a 2nd hand car... lahat ng sinabi si ice_boat ay sundin at mas maganda bring a realiable and good mechanic para hindi ka madenggoy...also try knowing kung saang lugar siya nakatira, baka kasi nalubog na yan sa baha then pinaayos lang saka ibenenta.... i have an experience sa 2nd hand car so more or less ang unang-una kung tinitingnan eh yung makina, mga hose kung may mga crack na, body kung wala pa siyang maselya, mileage, how many people who own that car.... if you have a good mechanic with you mas maibaba mo pa yung presyo kung mga defect sa mga sinabi ko kung interesado ka talaga sa sasakyan.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 13, 2013, 09:04:40 PM
Thanks din sayo bro imoy. By the way, follow up question ko. Kung registered pa yun sasakyan until 2014, maipapa transfer ko yun sa name ko sa next registration na?
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: fox03 on August 13, 2013, 09:08:19 PM

Whooooaaaa... Very helpful tips sir ice... Karma po kayo.. hanep sa reminders.

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pwede ka po punta sa mga autoshop pa angat mo para Makita pang ilalim..

Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: appleblossomgirl on August 13, 2013, 09:25:09 PM
: bro, consider this comments:
   1. ok kung naka-registered pa until 2014, pabor syo yan..
   2. not necessary na ilipat mo sa pangalan mo, gagastos ka lang, as long as na nasa
       iyo ang deed of sale, OR/CR ng sasakyan at current registration.
   3. Kahit ipalagay mo yan sa pangalan mo, still naka-slash lang name mo, hindi
       aalisin ang pangalan ng 1st owner.
   4. kung may kilala ka sa LTO, pa-check mo lang history ng sasakyan, for clearance.
   5. things to check: (kung wala ka idea sa registration, might be wala ka rin idea
                                 sa kondisyon ng sasakyan. this i suggest: )
      a. Check Engine kung hindi nag-ooverheat
      b. Check engine oil condition/ ATF/steering/ break fluids..
      c. Check suspension (ilalim), wheel bearing, racker arms, brake disc/ pads
      d. Check Aircon (very important), compressor, fan belts, bearing, freon charge,
          fan/ blowers. (pag di gumagana o lumalamig ang aircon at sinabi ng seller
          na freon lang kulang ay huwag kang maniwala, might be sira ang compressor.
      e. Electrical, check fuses kung gumagana lahat. check mo sa dash kung
          umiilaw yung oil or battery icon. (may problema pag umilaw yung 1 or 2.)
      f. Check radiator kung walang leak, yung mga hose baka may tapal lang, radiator
         cap kung sealed pa, water pump, (basta dapat good flowing ang tubig)
      g. Check all wheels (specially yung tubeless) , baka may punit na at may strips na
          nakalabas. check alignment of wheel- should not be negative nor positive.
      h. that is all the basics... be cautious lalo na kung 90's model pa.
    **** most important.... not drive safely... DRIVE KIND & HUMBLE...thanks..

tama yan po.. ehehe! my first car was a 2nd hand nissan sedan.. basta dapat may reliable mekaniko ka na kasama, kasi baka bulok bulok na ilalim nyan o kaya mapangit na un tunog.. o matigas ang clutch.. ayun. :) parang wala naman naitulong ang comment ko,, hahah!
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 13, 2013, 09:31:34 PM
pwede ka po punta sa mga autoshop pa angat mo para Makita pang ilalim..
Thanks for your tip bro fox.

tama yan po.. ehehe! my first car was a 2nd hand nissan sedan.. basta dapat may reliable mekaniko ka na kasama, kasi baka bulok bulok na ilalim nyan o kaya mapangit na un tunog.. o matigas ang clutch.. ayun. :) parang wala naman naitulong ang comment ko,, hahah!

Thanks din sayo ms. apple. Nice to see a girl get involved in car talks.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: appleblossomgirl on August 13, 2013, 09:35:17 PM
Thanks for your tip bro fox.

Thanks din sayo ms. apple. Nice to see a girl get involved in car talks.

mahilig ako kasi mag drive, 1 week after ko makakuha ng lisensya, nag tagaytay agad ako.. wag lang ako pasasakayin sa oto ng galit ako,, kasi nagagalit din ako sa gas, mejo kaskasero ako kasi.. sarap mag drive di ba? pero mas type ko nga ngaun mag mrt/lrt. hahaha!!
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 13, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
That's nice Ms. Apple. Better be safe, don't drive kapag galit ka. Saka nominal speed lang, para ma enjoy mo din yun scenery.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: fox03 on August 13, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
mahilig ako kasi mag drive, 1 week after ko makakuha ng lisensya, nag tagaytay agad ako.. wag lang ako pasasakayin sa oto ng galit ako,, kasi nagagalit din ako sa gas, mejo kaskasero ako kasi.. sarap mag drive di ba? pero mas type ko nga ngaun mag mrt/lrt. hahaha!!


ms apple.. road trip tayo minsan.. mahilig ka din ba manod ng resing resing??
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: appleblossomgirl on August 13, 2013, 09:47:21 PM

ms apple.. road trip tayo minsan.. mahilig ka din ba manod ng resing resing??

anung resing resing? mahilig ako mag roadtrip nga tas basta joy ride lng kun san san.. pero dulo malapit sa beach... beach lover ako e.. o kaya sa may over looking..
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: johnny0616 on August 13, 2013, 09:50:28 PM
sabi ng kapatid kong mechanic

kung gusto mo malaman ang year model ay check mo ang bandang dulo ng seat belt at nandoon...

pag 2nd hand ay check mo rin daw ang plate number kasi pag dating taxi at naging green plate ay may letter "D" sa gitna ng plate no. ibig sabihin ay "dropped" ang plate.

kung maari ay huag ka kumuha sa lugar na nabaha noon ondoy

pag mekaniko ay papaandarin iyan at tatakpan ng kamay iyong sa lagayan ng langis at alam na niya kung kumakain na ng langis makina

pinaka-mahirap na matapatan mo ay may dugtong na ang chassis or may galapang steel angle bar

 ;) sana makatulong  ;)
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 13, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
anung resing resing? mahilig ako mag roadtrip nga tas basta joy ride lng kun san san.. pero dulo malapit sa beach... beach lover ako e.. o kaya sa may over looking..
Hula ko lang Ms. Apple, I think ang gusto nya sabihin ay racing racing..

sabi ng kapatid kong mechanic
kung gusto mo malaman ang year model ay check mo ang bandang dulo ng seat belt at nandoon...
pag 2nd hand ay check mo rin daw ang plate number kasi pag dating taxi at naging green plate ay may letter "D" sa gitna ng plate no. ibig sabihin ay "dropped" ang plate.
kung maari ay huag ka kumuha sa lugar na nabaha noon ondoy
pag mekaniko ay papaandarin iyan at tatakpan ng kamay iyong sa lagayan ng langis at alam na niya kung kumakain na ng langis makina
pinaka-mahirap na matapatan mo ay may dugtong na ang chassis or may galapang steel angle bar

 ;) sana makatulong  ;)
Thanks bro johnny. That was really helpful and informative. Di ko yan alam dati. So it means kunwari plate is XDX 000 dating taxi yan?
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: icE_boaT on August 13, 2013, 10:28:08 PM
 :D    pareho pla kmi ni ms.apple, my car is nissan sentra sedan, 
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: johnny0616 on August 14, 2013, 02:08:05 AM
Hula ko lang Ms. Apple, I think ang gusto nya sabihin ay racing racing..
Thanks bro johnny. That was really helpful and informative. Di ko yan alam dati. So it means kunwari plate is XDX 000 dating taxi yan?
bro di ganun...
may maliit na punched "D" dun sa gitna ng plate no. (between last letter & first number). Kadalasan ay tinatakpan ng year sticker 'yun.

heto po ang link: http://ltfrb.gov.ph/media/downloadable/APPLICATION_FOR_DROPPING_AND_SUBSTITUTION_OF_UNITS.pdf (http://ltfrb.gov.ph/media/downloadable/APPLICATION_FOR_DROPPING_AND_SUBSTITUTION_OF_UNITS.pdf)

sample ng plate na may "D"
(http://www.olavsplates.com/foto_r/rp_ngj391_rear.jpg)
heto pa link:
http://lto-assistance.gettalk.net/t98-yellow-plate-to-green-requirements (http://lto-assistance.gettalk.net/t98-yellow-plate-to-green-requirements)

ang hindi puedeng gawing taxi ay kotseng "honda"...
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 14, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Thanks bro johnny for clearing it out. That's very nice to know. Karma point for you for the additional information and links. It looks like you know much about these so samantalahin ko na, curious lang ako bakit di pwedeng gawing taxi ang kotseng honda?
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: johnny0616 on August 14, 2013, 11:33:06 AM
Thanks bro johnny for clearing it out. That's very nice to know. Karma point for you for the additional information and links. It looks like you know much about these so samantalahin ko na, curious lang ako bakit di pwedeng gawing taxi ang kotseng honda?

ang alam ko ay kasunduan iyan ng bansa natin at ng honda manufacturers...
ever since ay wala kang makikitang taxi kahit sa ibang bansa pa (say in middle east)... pero may volks na taxi at american cars pati europeans.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 16, 2013, 05:16:36 AM
Ah, ganun pala. Kunwari mag attempt ako to apply for taxi franchise na honda ang kotse, di yun papayagan ng LTFRB?
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: uyot on August 16, 2013, 07:42:48 PM
Ah, ganun pala. Kunwari mag attempt ako to apply for taxi franchise na honda ang kotse, di yun papayagan ng LTFRB?

As far as I could remember nasa contract ito upon buying a Honda car. Check the link below na rin pero for verification pa ito.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_by_country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_by_country)
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: johnny0616 on August 16, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
As far as I could remember nasa contract ito upon buying a Honda car. Check the link below na rin pero for verification pa ito.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_by_country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_by_country)

you're right sir uyot kasi pag pirma mo sa car loan or even cash purchase ay may special condition daw sa contract na you're not allowed to use the honda units as "taxi".
You can confirm it to honda car first owners if you wish...
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 27, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
Thanks sa mga replies mga bro/sis. I settled in sa 1997 Isuzu hilander SL, yun ang swak sa budget ko eh. hehehe.. So far okay naman.. Need lang repairs sa mga cosmetics/appearance.. Tapos papachange oil ko na rin
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: johnny0616 on August 27, 2013, 10:13:19 PM
Thanks sa mga replies mga bro/sis. I settled in sa 1997 Isuzu hilander SL, yun ang swak sa budget ko eh. hehehe.. So far okay naman.. Need lang repairs sa mga cosmetics/appearance.. Tapos papachange oil ko na rin

payo po from my brother (chief mechanic)...
kung hindi pa po repainted ang nabili ninyo ay puede mo pong i-buffing ang body at magiging makintab ang paint ng nabili ninyo at balik halos bago ang pintura.
ang pag-buffing po ay iyong kinakabit ang "buffing wheel" sa drill at buong body ay dapat pantay-pantay. pakitanong mo po sa mga painter ang tamang paraan, just in case.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: firewater on August 27, 2013, 10:53:12 PM
Thanks sa tip bro Johnny, +karma points for you. How can I tell if original paint pa sya or repainted na? Any tips? The certificate of registration says that color is emerald green, pero dark na dark ang color nya, mapagkakamalang black nga sa biglang tingin

Edit: Di pala makapag +karma
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Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: Bolgas on September 12, 2013, 02:51:49 AM
ang galing niyo naman po sir! salamat.

**** most important.... not drive safely... DRIVE KIND & HUMBLE...


: bro, consider this comments:
   1. ok kung naka-registered pa until 2014, pabor syo yan..
   2. not necessary na ilipat mo sa pangalan mo, gagastos ka lang, as long as na nasa
       iyo ang deed of sale, OR/CR ng sasakyan at current registration.
   3. Kahit ipalagay mo yan sa pangalan mo, still naka-slash lang name mo, hindi
       aalisin ang pangalan ng 1st owner.
   4. kung may kilala ka sa LTO, pa-check mo lang history ng sasakyan, for clearance.
   5. things to check: (kung wala ka idea sa registration, might be wala ka rin idea
                                 sa kondisyon ng sasakyan. this i suggest: )
      a. Check Engine kung hindi nag-ooverheat
      b. Check engine oil condition/ ATF/steering/ break fluids..
      c. Check suspension (ilalim), wheel bearing, racker arms, brake disc/ pads
      d. Check Aircon (very important), compressor, fan belts, bearing, freon charge,
          fan/ blowers. (pag di gumagana o lumalamig ang aircon at sinabi ng seller
          na freon lang kulang ay huwag kang maniwala, might be sira ang compressor.
      e. Electrical, check fuses kung gumagana lahat. check mo sa dash kung
          umiilaw yung oil or battery icon. (may problema pag umilaw yung 1 or 2.)
      f. Check radiator kung walang leak, yung mga hose baka may tapal lang, radiator
         cap kung sealed pa, water pump, (basta dapat good flowing ang tubig)
      g. Check all wheels (specially yung tubeless) , baka may punit na at may strips na
          nakalabas. check alignment of wheel- should not be negative nor positive.
      h. that is all the basics... be cautious lalo na kung 90's model pa.
    **** most important.... not drive safely... DRIVE KIND & HUMBLE...thanks..
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: silverado on September 15, 2013, 09:48:24 AM
ingat sa flooded cars mga bro ::)
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: bondat on September 16, 2013, 03:21:20 PM
if i may suggest. before looking into the aesthetics / functionality etc of the car, it would be more prudent to check first with the TMG kung may alert ung car (carnapped/ instrument of a crime etc.) mahirap kasi bumili agad tapos "hot" car pala ung makukuha mo. just my two cents po.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: Marcus on September 16, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
Ingat sa car dealer baka nabaha at dinaan lang sa detailing, mas ok kung first owner yung bibilhan nyo
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: spade430 on September 19, 2013, 04:06:33 PM
2nd hand car... safer if you chek car history with Lto den check engine and body.. madali kc itago ang mga faults pag benthan na. then unti unti lalabas ang problem pag ikaw na may ari ng car.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: Lauren_Nataraki on May 26, 2016, 11:36:15 PM
thanks po sa thread na to, dami ko din natutunan. usually si father ang mahilig bumili ng 2nd hand na sasakyan then minomodify nya, pinapaganda at ibinebenta din. thanks sir ::)
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: naruto789544 on May 26, 2016, 11:57:57 PM
thanks po sa thread na to, dami ko din natutunan. usually si father ang mahilig bumili ng 2nd hand na sasakyan then minomodify nya, pinapaganda at ibinebenta din. thanks sir ::)

maganda kasi kita sa buy and sell ng cars... normally 30% ang tubo....
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: razorsharp on August 25, 2016, 04:55:57 AM
yung drim car ko iniisip ko kung second hand ko bibilihin. mahal ang maintenance sa 2nd hand eh.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: hector on August 26, 2016, 12:21:42 AM
follow this simple rule of thumb in buying 2nd hand car....aside from registration. the car must not be more than 7 years old and not more than 70000 km
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: el pedio on September 16, 2016, 03:00:34 AM
ang galing nong tip ni Sir ice-boat..halos kompleto na.

- kung may nakita ka sa radiator cap na parang may umawas na tubig, minsan kulay brown na ang tubig na natuyo, galing yan sa makina. Meaning nag iinit ang makina kaya umaawas ang tubig sa radiator.

Drive test na naka aircon sa tanghali. karamihan umiinit kung nasa trapik at nakafull ang thermostat & speed ng blower. Kung tumatakbo naman medyo taasan mo ang RPM ng makina, para malaman kung umiinit

Tingnan mo rin ang tubig sa radiator, baka may halong langis, malamang may tama na ang cylinder head nya.
Title: Re: Buying 2nd Hand car
Post by: glen1234s on October 10, 2017, 08:03:56 PM
my experience on 2nd hand car...
so I bought a 2nd hand car - 2012 crosswind xl from the first owner last year 2016. I know the owner and kahit na alam ko na nabangga yung sasakyan (na kasama ako sa gala namin) I know na hindi nacompromise ang integrity niya at alam ko din yung records galing sa casa (isuzu makati). Nung napaso ang registration nung 2016, I registered it using the original owner's name tapos pinabago ko ang paint and waited until the next registration period para sabay na ang change owner at change color - both of which will require HPG clearance.
siguro when you buy a 2nd hand car - it is best if you know the owner or at least know somebody who knows the owner and can vouch for it.
madami 2nd hand car dealer, ang gaganda ng sasakyan tingnan pero di mo alam ang history. I tried out one from Cavite - sabi ko sa mayari, interesado ako sa sasakyan ang gusto ko ipasok ko sa casa para ma-assess nila kung ano kailangan maibalik sa OEM state. tapos kung ano ang needed at magkano iyon, ibabawas ko sa price niya (up to 60K). umayaw ang seller so sabi ko hingi na lang ako ng details ng sasakyan at magtatanong na lang ako sa casa kahit wala ang sasakyan. ayun nalaman ko na pinasok pala sa kanila dahil nabaha at based sa records nila nagkaproblema sa transmission at hindi sila ang gumawa :(
wag po masilaw sa mababang price - remember you get what you pay for and sometimes when you pay low you end up spending higher.
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