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Title: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 12, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
This news article has got me thinking about the 2016 election. Bukas na ang midterms, and nalalapit na din ang next presidential elections:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/406543/una-proclaims-binay-in-2016 (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/406543/una-proclaims-binay-in-2016)

Sa akin lang po, I like what our current president is doing. I wish pwede pa siyang magrun ng isa pang term, pero hindi na talaga pwede. The issue I put to you guys is, alam natin na si Mar Roxas ang gagawin ni PNoy na tagapagmana ng mga plataporma niya. He's the natural successor. Binay, I know he did things for Makati, but sa issue ng political dynasties niya and corruption allegations - isn't he going to pull down the progressive steps we've gained under PNoy's leadership?

Sino ba sa kanila ang better successor to PNoy para ituloy ang pangunlad ng Pinas?
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: tonistork on May 12, 2013, 09:47:36 AM
Wala na kayang ibang choices maliban sa 2?
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 12, 2013, 09:52:11 AM
Wala na kayang ibang choices maliban sa 2?

Kung meron man, wala silang political machinery behind them. Alam mo naman pag wala kang political machinery, wala kang chance manalo - especially in the nationals na herculean effort for campaigning. 
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: fayt on May 12, 2013, 10:00:21 AM
Ang layo pa nito.. ang alam ko nga kasama si bong revilla sa tatakbo, pero wag naman sana manalo yun hehe... Kung eto ang pagpipilian, ill go to vp binay. Iba ang political power nito at marami din sya nagawa sa ngayon bilang vp ng pilipinas. Maganda rin naman ang record ni mar, no doubt. Closed fight sa dalawa..

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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: dre on May 12, 2013, 10:17:31 AM
wala bang ibang choices???
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: fayt on May 12, 2013, 10:23:34 AM
wala bang ibang choices???

Sama mo sa dalawa si bong revilla ng lakas cmd at alam ko si chiz din yata..

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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: skylark on May 12, 2013, 10:30:36 AM
Kapag si mar ang nanalo, sigurado na matutuloy lahat ng programa at ang mga sinimulan ni pnoy. Baka magawa pa niya mga balak ni pnoy. Si binay naman, hindi ko alam. Opinion ko lang ito...

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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: gogoboyz on May 12, 2013, 10:46:04 AM
kung yan talagang dalawa lang at wala nang ibang pagpipilian mas pipiliin ko si roxas
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 12, 2013, 11:40:49 AM
Sama mo sa dalawa si bong revilla ng lakas cmd at alam ko si chiz din yata..

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Ramon Revilla - after the fiasco his family did? Obvious na corrupt yun. Si Chiz, I hope not. Mahahati supporta ni Mar Roxas if Chiz runs, besides he's still got 3 more years as a senator assuming he wins tomorrow (which I'm pretty sure he will).  :-\
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: fayt on May 12, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
Ramon Revilla - after the fiasco his family did? Obvious na corrupt yun. Si Chiz, I hope not. Mahahati supporta ni Mar Roxas if Chiz runs, besides he's still got 3 more years as a senator assuming he wins tomorrow (which I'm pretty sure he will).  :-

May point ka pre kay chiz.. Wag muna sya tumakbo though hindi makakaila na malakas din sya. Marami magtatangka na kumbinsihin sya

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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on May 12, 2013, 04:38:29 PM
madami gusto mag pres na ngayon

pero hetong dalawa lang ang pinaka certain na tatako

Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Prime™ on May 12, 2013, 04:47:01 PM
Hayy..

Hayay yaya yay...
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: dre on May 12, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Revilla?Chiz??? God bless our country in 2016 smh
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: loverboy20 on May 12, 2013, 04:57:12 PM
I'll go for binay. kumakain pa rin kasi ng tuyo ang pamilya nya eh. the point is simple pa rin sila.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: marmaim on May 12, 2013, 07:14:55 PM
i doubt kung ito lang 2 ang tatakbo o magiging pinakamalakas na kandidato sa 2016. si noynoy nga last minute lang lumabas di ba?
nakaabang rin si loren at chiz. drilon also has some clout lalo na sa LP. si cayetano pumoporma rin kaya praning si loren hehehe daming pwedeng mangyari.
pero sabihin na nating between binay and roxas? para sa akin medyo lamang si binay. not because he is better ha? kaya lang para kasi sa akin medyo mas consistent sya sa mga stand nya(or at least sa kinakampihan nya). si roxas kasi may pagka political pokpok eh. kung sino ang malakas o nakaupo, nandun sya. simula nung tumakbo syang congressman hanggang ngayon, wala pa atang naging presidente na hindi nya kinampihan -- at least hanggang bago mapalitan.
 saka parang walang sinasantong gimik...gf, kasal, mr. palengke, robredo, scam, etc -- di mo maintindihan kung secretary ng aling departamento. parang secretary ng kung saan may media hehehe parang basahan masyado...malala pa sa trapo.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 12, 2013, 08:07:18 PM
i doubt kung ito lang 2 ang tatakbo o magiging pinakamalakas na kandidato sa 2016. si noynoy nga last minute lang lumabas di ba?
nakaabang rin si loren at chiz. drilon also has some clout lalo na sa LP. si cayetano pumoporma rin kaya praning si loren hehehe daming pwedeng mangyari.
pero sabihin na nating between binay and roxas? para sa akin medyo lamang si binay. not because he is better ha? kaya lang para kasi sa akin medyo mas consistent sya sa mga stand nya(or at least sa kinakampihan nya). si roxas kasi may pagka political pokpok eh. kung sino ang malakas o nakaupo, nandun sya. simula nung tumakbo syang congressman hanggang ngayon, wala pa atang naging presidente na hindi nya kinampihan -- at least hanggang bago mapalitan.
 saka parang walang sinasantong gimik...gf, kasal, mr. palengke, robredo, scam, etc -- di mo maintindihan kung secretary ng aling departamento. parang secretary ng kung saan may media hehehe parang basahan masyado...malala pa sa trapo.

I guess depende sa plataporma ni Binay pagdating ng 2016. Ang importante sa akin is mapagpatuloy ang progress na sinimulan ni Pnoy. Kay Roxas, bilang kaparehong party ni PNoy guarantisado itutuloy niya mga reporma ni PNoy. Si Binay, wildcard pa. Kung susuportahan niya ang daan ni PNoy, siguro maglelean ako towards him. But if he has his own agenda, and it endangers the hard-won victories PNoy has made for this country, kakalabanin ko talaga siya.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: 사랑한다구 on May 13, 2013, 12:29:25 AM
Roxas ako.

If manalo si Binay, atrasado na naman ang Pilipinas sa dark ages. Kaya nag improve ang bansa dahil sa imahe ni Pnoy against corruption. Nagbalik ang tiwala ng dayuhang mamumuhunan. Na brigthen ang hope ng mga Pilipino na sa wakas e mukhang may patutunguhan tayo.

Pag si Binay ang manalo? Sigurado ang persepsyon na ito ay mawawala. Lalo na na pinapatakbo niya ang kanyang personal assistant na si Nancy.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: elmeroctavo on May 16, 2013, 09:04:46 AM
masyado pa po maaga to determine
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: fayt on May 16, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
papano kung sumama si bong bong marcos sa eksena.. yan 2 plus marcos sa 2016?
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: skylark on May 16, 2013, 09:41:53 AM
Depende sa ibang players sa 2016.
Pero kung binay vs roxas, malaki ang chance na kay Roxas ako. Malaki rin kasi ang chance na ipagpatuloy niya mga programa ni pnoy.

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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: krimson38 on May 17, 2013, 05:12:54 PM
Neither one. I would prefer another candidate for 2016, preferably not from a political dynasty.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 17, 2013, 06:21:51 PM
Neither one. I would prefer another candidate for 2016, preferably not from a political dynasty.

So you'll abstain na lang rather than pick a side?
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: krimson38 on May 17, 2013, 07:00:20 PM
I'll pick a 3rd side. It won't be only 2 choices in 2016, there will be other candidates.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: mico on May 20, 2013, 12:05:16 AM
Neither of the 2 din ako. pero if silang 2 lang ang choice, I will go for Binay dahil kahit papano his Executive Leadership is a proof sa Makati, si Mar Roxas ewan ko, honestly nagtataka ko bakit naging senador ito kahit sa mga debate before he keeps on insisting na hindi siya lawyer kaya don't expect him. Ayoko din isipin na sasabihin itutuloy lang nya nasimulan ni Noynoy and ano ba nasimulan ni Noynoy? personal attacks sa previous admin? I don't like GMA also pero ewan ko, d kasi ako maka move one sa track record ni Pnoy na 9 years sa House at 3 years sa senate kahit isang batas wala siyang gnawa.

And sa sinasabing corruptiong Drive? for me it's only a product of media, pag tinignan ang totoong record ng corruption, mas mataas padin ang sa time ni Pnoy ngayon lalo na sa smuggling cases compare sa 9 years ni GMA.

Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: dre on May 20, 2013, 07:32:34 AM
basta wag lang Revilla at iba pang artista
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 20, 2013, 08:23:53 AM
Neither of the 2 din ako. pero if silang 2 lang ang choice, I will go for Binay dahil kahit papano his Executive Leadership is a proof sa Makati, si Mar Roxas ewan ko, honestly nagtataka ko bakit naging senador ito kahit sa mga debate before he keeps on insisting na hindi siya lawyer kaya don't expect him. Ayoko din isipin na sasabihin itutuloy lang nya nasimulan ni Noynoy and ano ba nasimulan ni Noynoy? personal attacks sa previous admin? I don't like GMA also pero ewan ko, d kasi ako maka move one sa track record ni Pnoy na 9 years sa House at 3 years sa senate kahit isang batas wala siyang gnawa.

And sa sinasabing corruptiong Drive? for me it's only a product of media, pag tinignan ang totoong record ng corruption, mas mataas padin ang sa time ni Pnoy ngayon lalo na sa smuggling cases compare sa 9 years ni GMA.

Look at how many new ships, planes, and new military hardware we're acquiring under PNoy. What did Gloria do our military? Sold them a few defective, 2nd hand helecopters? She even pocketed the sales for them! Check out our investment grade economy. Our stock market is at its highest and the world's spotlight is on us. THE PSE continues to break records on  almost a daily basis. from barely 5,500 when PNoy took over to now almost 7,500! That's over 2,000 in just a 3 year term. Give credit where credit is due please.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: marmaim on May 20, 2013, 11:43:02 AM
Look at how many new ships, planes, and new military hardware we're acquiring under PNoy. What did Gloria do our military? Sold them a few defective, 2nd hand helecopters? She even pocketed the sales for them! Check out our investment grade economy. Our stock market is at its highest and the world's spotlight is on us. THE PSE continues to break records on  almost a daily basis. from barely 5,500 when PNoy took over to now almost 7,500! That's over 2,000 in just a 3 year term. Give credit where credit is due please.

but it was the same with cory. lots investment and good will to support the hugely popular and new government as compared to marcos' negatively viewed and tired old one. just a whole lot of bluster.
gma could also claim brand new helicopters and military equipment -- even new navy ships -- like what you say is happening with pnoy pero hindi lang din natin napapansin na mga defective pala at may cut lang din.
the economic boom? ramos made the whole world believe we were the new and super-duper tiger economy while privatizing everything to line his pockets.
pnoy is a limp noodle. he keeps hiding behind his spokespeople when delicate or highly unpopular matters occur. he's all about image which i think is nothing else but a smokescreen.
i agree. give credit where it is due. smoke is just a lot of hot air. when the mist clears, you've got nothing.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: grayle on May 20, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
but it was the same with cory. lots investment and good will to support the hugely popular and new government as compared to marcos' negatively viewed and tired old one. just a whole lot of bluster.

What investments and good will? Our AFP all had WWII era ships during Cory's regime, then Ramos, then Gloria... this is the first time any concrete evidence has surfaced about modernizing the AFP. New helecopters, jets, corvettes and mini-subs are all in the agenda. It's not just an agenda though, there are already 2 out of 12 FA-50 fighter jets here, with more on the way. 8 new SOKOL multi-purpose helicopters, 2 out of 4 Hamilton-class cutters are already delivered from the US, with incheon class frigates from Korea, and a 5 year DND defense deal for more military equipment from Canada and Japan. All these new things are partially here already, being used by the brave men and women of the AFP. These were only brought in during PNoy's term, so I don't know what your talking about GMA providing ships or helicopters. The only helicopters she sold to the PNP and they were defective, out of a 9 year term, so mahiya ka naman kung sino dineedefensahan mo.

the economic boom? ramos made the whole world believe we were the new and super-duper tiger economy while privatizing everything to line his pockets.
pnoy is a limp noodle. he keeps hiding behind his spokespeople when delicate or highly unpopular matters occur. he's all about image which i think is nothing else but a smokescreen.
i agree. give credit where it is due. smoke is just a lot of hot air. when the mist clears, you've got nothing.

The passing of the RH Bill alone is proof that PNoy isn't a limp noodle and tackles difficult, "unpopular" matters - I dare you to find a bigger threat than going against the Catholic church. The gains of the economy are based on sound foundations, as our exports have jumped by 1 billion dollars from 2011 to 2012, and our reserves - because of judicious spending by the government has increased from $62 billion to $84 within 3 years. There is a fledging middle class where there was only a rigid divide between rich and poor in the past administrations. So I don't know where your getting your data from, but magbasa basa ka naman ng news ng konti para informed ang statements mo. Your just using the sins of past administrations and blaming the current one without even looking under the hood and seeing what's making it tick.  >:(
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: xxxportz on May 23, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
binay po ako, solid ang marines!!
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: EagleEye on August 30, 2013, 02:06:54 PM
more choices please. if either wins lilipat na talaga ako ng bansa
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on August 30, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
nice thread TS kaya +karma sa iyo

i'll choose Roxas in the 2016 election kung tatakbo siya....wala pa kasi akong nakikitang qualified sa seat na nagbabalak tumakbo....
 :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: josemanueldelacruz on August 30, 2013, 09:41:22 PM
none of the above, hehehe...  sana may iba pa na magrun hehe
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Marcus on September 01, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
BBM 2016, Bong bong marcos
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Soujiro Seta on September 01, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
Hmm between binay and roxas mar roxas na lang ako..parang dick gordon lang yan eh..kht d pinalad sa tinatakbuhang pwesto tuloy pa din sa pag gawa ng tama..sana palarin na c dick gordon s 2016
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: jcoles21 on September 02, 2013, 10:47:19 PM
Neither of the 2 din ako. pero if silang 2 lang ang choice, I will go for Binay dahil kahit papano his Executive Leadership is a proof sa Makati, si Mar Roxas ewan ko, honestly nagtataka ko bakit naging senador ito kahit sa mga debate before he keeps on insisting na hindi siya lawyer kaya don't expect him. Ayoko din isipin na sasabihin itutuloy lang nya nasimulan ni Noynoy and ano ba nasimulan ni Noynoy? personal attacks sa previous admin? I don't like GMA also pero ewan ko, d kasi ako maka move one sa track record ni Pnoy na 9 years sa House at 3 years sa senate kahit isang batas wala siyang gnawa.

And sa sinasabing corruptiong Drive? for me it's only a product of media, pag tinignan ang totoong record ng corruption, mas mataas padin ang sa time ni Pnoy ngayon lalo na sa smuggling cases compare sa 9 years ni GMA.
I disagree for Binay...isang masahol din na corrupt yan..tanungin mo kung payag sya alisin ang pork barrel...tigas na hindi ang sagot nyan...But I agree na wala p naman talagang napapatunayan si pnoy...in fact noong panahon ni GMA lahat din ng taunang o quarterly economic report laging positve ah db? laging papataas ang GNP at GDP? laging papataas ang employment rate...e bakit? syempre mga binayarang anunsyo yan at hinokus pokus na datos ng gobyerno...lumalabas lang ang totoo kapag hindi na sila ang nakaupo....nagkaroon nga ng tiwala ang foreign investor ang tanong umunti ba ang sumasala sa oras o nagugutom? e sa datos ngang kasalukuyan mas dumami pa ang # ng pamilyang hindi nakakakain ng 3 beses s 1 araw...Pagtaas ng stocks? porfolio investment yan walang regular na trabahong nalilikha kaya talgang kahit gano kaganda yan walang tunay at makabuluhang pagsulong sa buhay ng greater majority ng mamamyan na matatamo jan....like the past and previous phil. president makadayuhan at ilitista din yang si pinoy...kung mabuwag nya ang oil deregulation law at contractualization malamang isa ako sa sumamba sa kanya...saka lang nya mapapatunayan na iba sya sa mga nagdaang pangulo....
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: koganeikiryuu on September 06, 2013, 06:56:32 PM
Escudero, Cayetano, Binay, Roxas

Sigurado ako gustong kumandidato sa pagka Presidente ang
apat na to. Halata naman sa mga kilos ni Binay na ito talaga
ang plano niya, simula pa lang nang manalo siya bilang BISE PRESIDENTE.

Ang problema ang sitwasyon ni Roxas at Escudero. Gustong maging
presidente nang dalawang to, ang tanong kung sino ang susuportahan na ng partido liberal.

Si Cayetano ang wild CARD, sa kasalukuyan hinidi pa siya ganun ka sikat at hindi malakas ang karisma niya para makakuha nang malakas na suporta para mag karoon siya ng tyansa manalo bilang presidente sa 2016. kung hindi siya kakandidatong Presidente sa 2016 sigurado tatakbong Bise Presidente
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: charliehouse on September 07, 2013, 08:50:53 AM
There are rumors na di raw si Mar ang magiging standard bearer ng liberal due to his lack of popularity sa mga surveys.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: jackfruit_99 on September 07, 2013, 05:53:14 PM
lacson tayo mga tol at walang tinatanggap na pork...at magaling pa sa criminality..sigurado mababawasan ang mga holdaper, carnapper at drug lords..bow.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: mechanical_x on September 08, 2013, 02:30:13 PM
Binay or Roxas?

None of the above.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: charliehouse on September 15, 2013, 07:19:13 PM
lacson tayo mga tol at walang tinatanggap na pork...at magaling pa sa criminality..sigurado mababawasan ang mga holdaper, carnapper at drug lords..bow.

Magaling sa criminality? di ako boboto sa taong magaling jan.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: eragon26969 on September 15, 2013, 10:34:03 PM
If it's between Binay and Roxas, I'll go for Roxas. If there are other candidates then that's a different story.


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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Coopernilingus on September 15, 2013, 11:06:42 PM
IMHO, if these two are the only choices come 2016, then we are doomed.


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Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: monde8 on September 17, 2013, 06:14:52 AM
Without reading the article, napag usapan na namin ng misis ko ang topic na to. More on kay Mar Roxas napag usapan namin dahil siya ang madalas na makita namin sa tv na rumeresponde sa mga kung anu ano. Nasa kanya ang lime light so we figured na pinapabango din talaga nila ang pangalan niya para sureball na sa next elections.

We even have this theory na posibleng nung nag step down noon si Mar para kay Pinoy ay ito talaga ang plano nila. Nag give way si Mar pero bibigyan siya ng maraming proyekto at involvements ng sa gayon ay next election ay mas bumango pa ang pangalan niya.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: tomasmakirot on September 21, 2013, 03:16:14 PM
wala puro porma at magnanakaw lang ng kaban ng bayan ang mga iyan.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Asiong Salonga on September 22, 2013, 03:38:22 PM
mga brother wag kayong magpapaniwala sa ginagawa ni roxas. napakatalamak na corrupt nyan puro papogi lang alam nyan
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Itachi101 on September 24, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
agang kampanya naman yan >:( >:( >:( >:(
unahin muna natin mga problema :o :o :o :o :o ng bansa
panira ng araw ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( 8) 8) :'(
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: Hashishtemasu on September 26, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
My answer to the first question? None of the above.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: comsci91 on September 26, 2013, 08:03:01 AM
Kay mar roxas na lang ako, eka nga choose the lesser of the two evils. sa tingin mas may pakinabang at utak si mar kaysa kay binay, na ilang beses ng nahuhuli at nasasangkot sa mga anumalya gaya ng graft and corruption at hindi lang sya pati ang buong pamilya nya ay kasma.
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: silverado on September 26, 2013, 08:17:46 AM
any other choice? kung sila lang, toss coin na lang gagawin ko ::)
Title: Re: Binay or Roxas for 2016?
Post by: jackfruit_99 on September 30, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
walang dapat piliin sa dalawa...lahat yan ay mga involve sa pondo ng bayan...salamat
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