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Title: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 08, 2013, 10:39:12 PM
do Philippines have a Catholic voting?

the church choose regarding who would you vote in the election, the team buhay to be specific,

for me i dont the church doesn't get to choose who will i vote,

voting is my obligation to the country and it's my free will to choose who would i vote
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 08, 2013, 10:45:45 PM
We do not have block voting in catholic. Even the officials (catholic) dont give the name of the candidate to ba vote though some of the priest may do this. Catholic is inline for freedom in choosing who will be vote. They just give guidelines in choosing candidates.

INC is known for a very long time who do block voting.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 09, 2013, 12:12:30 AM
totoo yan dahil pag ano napili ng kataastaasan nila yun na ang ipapakalat na iboboto sa bawat INC sa pinas
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Prime™ on April 09, 2013, 08:23:25 AM
Block voting? It's cult like thinking for me.

I respect the church and her spiritual authority, pero kahit makiusap siya na bumoto ako, eh hindi ko gagawin. Hahaha!

Why should I play along with this dog and phony show? It's a charade.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 09, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
totoo yan dahil pag ano napili ng kataastaasan nila yun na ang ipapakalat na iboboto sa bawat INC sa pinas

Members of INC have very strong faith to their institution. If the head of this institution gives the list of the people then without hesitation, most of their member will follow that in election 100%. I ask friend of mine why they do that, she answer that they truly believe their leader. She said that, even though we can vote on our own will, we know that our leader will guide us to correct path. The choices of our leader made, are for us the member of this church to follow the path of Lord. that's how strong their faith. But then again, some of the member have own freewill to choose their own candidate. INC block voting mostly 80% of their member who will follow the list given by their institution.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: amy2004 on April 09, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
others say that there is no such thing as catholic block voting. I believe the church as a whole wala, but there are large catholic group that can influence directly or indirectly the voters.
In my opinion the most silent but most potent of all group are the GKK, next the El Shaddai, CWL, CFC, and other smaller groups.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 09, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
yeah, business is business for them. pero sana wag na sila makihalo sa usaping panglipunan * election period * kasi I heard some of the priest are giving names or pinapabango nila ang pangalan ng tao na ito.. hay o.o
ganyan talaga madami ang gumagawa niyan

pero di naman masama siguro na suwayin ang sinasabi ng religious group leader di ba?
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 09, 2013, 11:42:16 PM
Yun grupo ni bro. Eddie di magawa yam block voting kahit tumakbo pa si bro.eddie for president. Still hindi sya nanalo kahit kiniclaim nya million ang follower nya na boboto sa kanya.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 09, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
Yun grupo ni bro. Eddie di magawa yam block voting kahit tumakbo pa si bro.eddie for president. Still hindi sya nanalo kahit kiniclaim nya million ang follower nya na boboto sa kanya.

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ilang beses na ba tumako si bro. edi?

daming beses na pero wala pa din eh so kahit million pa talaga mga followers niya eh

di natutupad yun block niya
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: DVD X on April 11, 2013, 01:31:28 AM

    VOTE & Be Counted...

 ;D


Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 11, 2013, 01:38:26 AM

    VOTE & Be Counted...

 ;D
di po yan ang tanong sir
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Dimmu Borgir on April 11, 2013, 12:56:15 PM
pagpasensyahan mo na..

bagong gising lang yan..


di po yan ang tanong sir
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: lusotako on April 11, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
ganyan talaga madami ang gumagawa niyan

pero di naman masama siguro na suwayin ang sinasabi ng religious group leader di ba?

opo di nga po masama sumuway sa leader nila.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 11, 2013, 04:51:43 PM
Marami talaga sumusuway sa mga religious leader nila. Like I said, yun kina bro. Eddie 35% percent lang ang bumoto sa kanya nun presidential campaign. Yun el shaddai, hindi nakukuha more than 50% ng member nila ang boto sa mga ineendorse nila pulitiko.. only INC ang matagtag sa ganitong systema.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 11, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
well its responsibility to vote

and its a free will to choose who will you vote right?
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 11, 2013, 10:03:32 PM
Its a free will for those who have that.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 11, 2013, 10:27:26 PM
Its a free will for those who have that.

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if the religious leader will choose for you, it's better not to vote

at kahit sino naman iboto mo di malalaman ng leader niyo kung sino
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: ¿m☺ÿ on April 12, 2013, 04:39:37 PM
opo di nga po masama sumuway sa leader nila.

agree din ako dito...
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 12, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
bakit ka nga naman susunod kung alam mong trapo yun sinusoportahan niya
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 12, 2013, 09:04:01 PM
bakit ka nga naman susunod kung alam mong trapo yun sinusoportahan niya

Yan ang praktikal na pag iisip pag dating sa kung sino iboboto. Pero iba kasi clouded sa faith nila sa kanilang church institution nila. Naipapangako sa kanila na maliligtas sila basta sumunod sila sa kanilang leader. Naipangako ng leader nila na gagabayan sila ng Diyos kung susundin sila.

Irony, kahit mag block vote sila o hindi, wala pa rin tayo masyado pagpipilian kung sino dapat iboto.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 12, 2013, 11:16:11 PM
Yan ang praktikal na pag iisip pag dating sa kung sino iboboto. Pero iba kasi clouded sa faith nila sa kanilang church institution nila. Naipapangako sa kanila na maliligtas sila basta sumunod sila sa kanilang leader. Naipangako ng leader nila na gagabayan sila ng Diyos kung susundin sila.

Irony, kahit mag block vote sila o hindi, wala pa rin tayo masyado pagpipilian kung sino dapat iboto.

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madami ng clouded sa religion pero ngayon

medyo matalino na din yun iba pero wala lang matinong kandidato
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Parabola on April 14, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
that's why INC have beautiful churches...

they mean business all the time esp. election period...
kung hindi totoo yan malaking insulto yan sir, ibig mong sabihin negoyso lang pala talaga yang INC. "they mean business all the time esp. election period..."-ano pa po yung iba?
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: bohica on April 14, 2013, 10:19:17 AM

I will use my intellect and free will when voting regardless of what others say.  That's one of the essences of being a human.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 14, 2013, 10:51:49 AM
that's why INC have beautiful churches...

they mean business all the time esp. election period...

Naku kakaiba to. Maraming INC dito pag nabasa nila to. Paki linaw na lang po to sir.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Parabola on April 14, 2013, 06:43:24 PM
that's why INC have beautiful churches...

they mean business all the time esp. election period...
kung lalawakan ko kasi pagiisip ko sa post na eto lumalabas na nababayaran ang INC ng kandidato para sila ang iboto, yun siguro yung business dun. Pahingi ng liwanag sir Dimmu Borgir.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 14, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
kung lalawakan ko kasi pagiisip ko sa post na eto lumalabas na nababayaran ang INC ng kandidato para sila ang iboto, yun siguro yung business dun. Pahingi ng liwanag sir Dimmu Borgir.

Yan kasi ang normal ng iisipin sa statement na yan and it will create conflict. Lalo na INC pinag uusapan.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: rodpau on April 15, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
"In the past, the Catholic church campaigned against Sen. Juan Flavier because as health secretary, he freely distributed condoms. But Flavier won the elections. Thus, the so-called Catholic vote is a political myth," Sen. Santiago
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 15, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
"In the past, the Catholic church campaigned against Sen. Juan Flavier because as health secretary, he freely distributed condoms. But Flavier won the elections. Thus, the so-called Catholic vote is a political myth," Sen. Santiago
totoo nga yan medyo nag iisip naman kasi mga botante eh

kahit mas nauuto sila ng ibang pulitiko
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Dimmu Borgir on April 16, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
Business is all about monies..

I say business because when a certain politician ask for favor not in INC but only to "few person inside INC", they ask the candidate what he/she can do for him or for Iglesia..

In this way, Iglesia becomes powerful..

And Manalo too...

 

kung lalawakan ko kasi pagiisip ko sa post na eto lumalabas na nababayaran ang INC ng kandidato para sila ang iboto, yun siguro yung business dun. Pahingi ng liwanag sir Dimmu Borgir.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: zkhiel on April 16, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
its in the free will ng tao kung iboboto nila or hindi yung ineendorse ng religion nila kasi it's a matter of right and wrong na pdeng pakitang tao lang yung politico sa religion para makakuha lng boto right?
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Dimmu Borgir on April 20, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
I really want to answer all your question about my post. But there are lots of people na close minded especially pagdating sa religion.

Dati nagpost ako dito about 3 religions and na warningan ako tungkol dun sa isa which is INC.


For me, gusto kong i discuss lahat ng bagay without boundaries para naman malaman ng iba yung totoo..

Subalit dahil nga sa warning, di na ako makikipagtalo dahil baka makick out pa ako sa PT..

Iiwan ko sa inyo ang kasabihang ito.

 "Ang pinakamapanganib na tao sa mundo ay ang taong sa palagay niya ay tama ang kanyang ginagawa"
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 20, 2013, 05:54:47 PM
I really want to answer all your question about my post. But there are lots of people na close minded especially pagdating sa religion.

Dati nagpost ako dito about 3 religions and na warningan ako tungkol dun sa isa which is INC.


For me, gusto kong i discuss lahat ng bagay without boundaries para naman malaman ng iba yung totoo..

Subalit dahil nga sa warning, di na ako makikipagtalo dahil baka makick out pa ako sa PT..

Iiwan ko sa inyo ang kasabihang ito.

 "Ang pinakamapanganib na tao sa mundo ay ang taong sa palagay niya ay tama ang kanyang ginagawa"
nice choice of words mas mabuti pa kasing tapusin na lang ang conversation

kesa mauwi sa pakikipag talo
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: heyo_pineapple on April 22, 2013, 09:46:58 AM
May unknown number na nagtext sakin nung isang araw to vote the following people, catholic vote daw, nakak inis lang.


Ito yung message:
"White vote po tau! Catholic vote - honasan, trillanes, ejercito jv, magsaysay mitos, pimentel, villar cynthia. Salamat"

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 22, 2013, 09:50:06 AM
May unknown number na nagtext sakin nung isang araw to vote the following people, catholic vote daw, nakak inis lang.


Ito yung message:
"White vote po tau! Catholic vote - honasan, trillanes, ejercito jv, magsaysay mitos, pimentel, villar cynthia. Salamat"

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You already know what to do for that kind of thing. Ako nga rin nakatanggap din. Para lang tulot spam sa cellphone ko mga yan hehe

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: heyo_pineapple on April 22, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
You already know what to do for that kind of thing. Ako nga rin nakatanggap din. Para lang tulot spam sa cellphone ko mga yan hehe

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Marami kang natatanggap? Pwede bang ireport yung mga ganito? Haha

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 22, 2013, 11:11:12 AM
Mga 7 sms.. sana nga lang pede ireport kasi nakakaistorbo eh.

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on April 24, 2013, 02:33:32 PM
ngayong papalapit ang eleksyon dumadami nga yun spam text na ganayan

catholic vote daw, go for these people chuchu cheness na nalalaman

pero bakit sila ba napili ng diyos para iboto di naman di ba?
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: fayt on April 24, 2013, 02:46:21 PM
Para sa hindi makapagisip sa sarili nila kaya papatol sa mga ganyan propaganda..

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: rodpau on May 02, 2013, 07:09:36 PM

. . . . .
 "Ang pinakamapanganib na tao sa mundo ay ang taong sa palagay niya ay tama ang kanyang ginagawa"

Tama ka, brod.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: contagiuos on May 03, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
Actually, they practice dictatorship. If the leader say "I am the angel that came from the far east..." if the consequence of disobeying the leader will mean dismembership sa church... and kung wala ka na sa church you are not save... matatakot ka na sumuway, di ba? They are blind followers... yung kapritso ng leader ang nasusunod.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on May 03, 2013, 11:31:15 PM
Actually, they practice dictatorship. If the leader say "I am the angel that came from the far east..." if the consequence of disobeying the leader will mean dismembership sa church... and kung wala ka na sa church you are not save... matatakot ka na sumuway, di ba? They are blind followers... yung kapritso ng leader ang nasusunod.

kalimitan gan yan nga nagyayari dati

pero lately di na nasusunod yan eh medyo nag iisip na rin naman yun iba eh
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Tonying Bayawak on May 07, 2013, 01:37:43 AM
We've seen countries who treat religious laws and government as one. Apparently hindi man lahat magulo, mapapansin natin ang lack of open mind...
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on May 07, 2013, 01:57:52 AM
We've seen countries who treat religious laws and government as one. Apparently hindi man lahat magulo, mapapansin natin ang lack of open mind...
well thats true poh sir

medyo hindi nga open minded karamihan ng pinoy
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Tonying Bayawak on May 07, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
well thats true poh sir

medyo hindi nga open minded karamihan ng pinoy
Based po sa experience, mukhang marami namang open minded sardo lang ang bibig at baka mapatay.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on May 07, 2013, 02:52:14 AM
Based po sa experience, mukhang marami namang open minded sardo lang ang bibig at baka mapatay.
well meron talaga ganyan na talagang pumapatay

may mga certain people and politicians talaga na pinapatay ang mga kontra sa kanila

like those on abra, some part of la union and pangasinan

pero wala naman yan kinalaman sa catholic or any religious votings eh na topic dito

dahil wala naman sigurong religious group ang ipapapatay ang members nila

na di sumusunod sa nasabing bagay unless kulto kayo
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: Tonying Bayawak on May 07, 2013, 01:14:46 PM
And i won't just emphasize catholics most of us were free minded kahit naman pakinggan ang sermon minsan hindi natin sinusunod i would emphasize other christian religious sects ayoko magbanggit for respect.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: alphaomega on May 09, 2013, 05:52:33 PM
spoke person from catholic says they are only guiding there people who to choose with
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on May 09, 2013, 11:33:14 PM
spoke person from catholic says they are only guiding there people who to choose with
i think sinasabi lang nila yan they do force people on who will they vote
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: GHOST PROTOCOL on May 09, 2013, 11:49:49 PM
hindi solid ang mga katoliko pagdating sa botohan. di tulad ng mga INC
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: mico on May 20, 2013, 12:21:57 AM
Ang ayoko lang sa catholic vote nainendorse parang basehan lang nila is hindi naman lahat pero parang porke anti RH endorse na.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: EagleEye on August 30, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
the church should NEVER interfere with state matters. they manipulate people on what THEY think is right for THEM. kahit hindi naman sa ikabubuti ng pag unlad ng bansa. napaka selfish ng simbahan natin.

alam niyo na ba na ang simabahan natin ang isa sa mga mayayamang institution sa pilipinas?? and they say na they are pro poor?? bakit ang gagara ng mga simabahan natin, mga kotse ng mga pari? why cant they just donate it to the poor then if they say they are pro poor.

check niyo tong site na to

https://www.mybpimag.com/images/pdf/top_100_stockholders.pdf (https://www.mybpimag.com/images/pdf/top_100_stockholders.pdf)

lumalabas ang simbahang katoliko  8 TIMES sa listahan. they hold 8 spots in the 100 top stockholders of BPI! at BPI pa lang yan!
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: charliehouse on September 03, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
There was a catholic block voting before, way back the 60's to the 90's but the church nowadays has become irrelevant and its their fault.
Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: eragon26969 on September 15, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
No such thing as Catholic Voting. We choose who to vote for and NOT the church!


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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: xxxchoholic Rai ♥ on September 19, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
There was a catholic block voting before, way back the 60's to the 90's but the church nowadays has become irrelevant and its their fault.

yup that one is true sir this thing before

was somewhat effective due to the strong influence of the church before..

but now its kinda lost its charm to the stars who are running for position in the government

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Title: Re: Catholic Voting?
Post by: tomasmakirot on September 21, 2013, 03:55:10 PM
INC at mga non-catholic sects lang ata kayang magpa-bloc vote dito sa atin. Yung el shaddai nga humina na rin ang impluwensiya eh.
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